For every staunch proponent of vaccines and vaccine researchers, there is another who is deeply skeptical of them. "Scientific" American would have you believe otherwise.
Also, even when the scientists developing a vaccine are full of integrity, mistakes can be made in the manufacturing process. And mistakes can be made by the nurses who administer them.
In my experience in both medical and non-medical research it is very easy to get very smart people to focus on a tiny problem and miss the big picture.
I would sure like them to prove that their vaccines are not toxic poisons. The ingredient list says otherwise and that is only the known chemical poisons...not what they hide.
Yes. The risks of such events are not included in computations of risk of vaccines. So we consistently underestimate the risks of vaccines from the recipients perspective.
Getting us divided on vaccines is part of play. The vaccinated are mostly fine with it since they’re chemically lobotomized and the unvaccinated will be forced into it anyway.
On whether vaccine research "replaces older problems with new ones," I'd have said no. For the question contains the unexamined, dangerous premise that vaccines have solved problems.
Vaccines are poisons, and nothing but. They cause cancer, dementia, autism, allergies, and almost every chronic disease of mankind. Reductions in disease mortality are due, not to vaccines, but to better sanitation, housing, diet, and working conditions -- to class war from below.
Vaccine "scientists" obscure this social history, because vaccines are class war from above.
I agree. In the wording of the survey question it is clear that the pollsters are just skimming the surface of public opinion. Obviously it would have been interesting to see how people responded to a much more direct question like, "Do you think vaccines have done more harm than good?"
It's part of their playbook. If you don't ask won't know.
In a way what happened in 2020-2021 and what happened on 9/11 has been good in that people have woken up to the corruption that has been going on for such a long time. From these incidents arose lack of trust and many people then began to look at such events as the Kennedy assassination, the attack on the USS Liberty and Pearl Harbor etc. Finally learning what Reagan said was true "The nine most terrifying words in the English language: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
"In the annual public surveys about trust and reputation, journalists and the media have regularly fallen near the very bottom, often just above Congress. But in this year’s Gallup poll, we have managed to fall below Congress."
More docs need to leave the system and do concierge medicine because that is the only way they can free their bonds. And people need to stay attuned to their state deliberations on the vaccine schedule because what ever fluff comes from Washington (like the discontinuation of neonate Hep B) means nothing if you have the state medical societies lobbying to keep certain vaccines on the schedule.
It appears that vaccines have been rigorously tested for decades. The current autism statistics, chronic autoimmune diseases and the proliferation of new biologics for children speak for themselves. We are spellbound.
Thank you Dr Setty for this posting. It will remain impossible to trust the pharmaceutical scientist as long as they refuse to look at the cumulative effects of the current mass vaccination schedule. I do trust the science, but the research on this topic remains undone. I feel this is the only way for the pharmaceutical to regain the public trust they have lost over the last five years.
Madhava, thank you so much for reading your posts rather than using AI. I could listen to you (and Joe Martino) all day! I trust both of you to deliver intelligent, thought-provoking and factual information. 👍🏻👍🏻
Learning to think logically has to be the basis of education and we have stopped teaching this important process. I did not vaccinate my child and he's a healthy young man that has not been sick one day during K through 12. I have had two German Shepherds who have vaccine damage. If I did not learn from this it would be a failure of the educational system. I have more books on vaccines then most people have in their libraries. I used to think polio was the only good vaccine but it is evident that we were lied to many many times. Who will take care of all of our autistic children?
Honestly,70% that distrusts "our" medical leaders and medical institutions is not enough to affect real change. Ninety,90% of us disaffected enough will be what it takes to shake most of the grifters from the bushes. Those leeches,so wealthy by slaying and crippling so many others,are not going to 'go quietly' . We owe it to ourselves and our future to not sit quietly in this face of evil. Silence IS aquiescence.
The poll results demonstrate that 70% still trust the medical establishment.
However 30% of the population is very capable of upending the system, especially if more than half of the other 70% is ambivalent. As I mentioned, the signs point to the fact that the 30% is going to keep growing.
Which is why I particularly liked, and like to quote, one response on this platform by a very wise person who said: "I have said I am not anti-vax but anti-stupid as I don't believe in poisoning myself as the way to good health."
We'll see come the next great fake pandemic. Saying I am skeptical of vaccines and still going ahead and letting my child be poisoned by them is not the same thing. It must be either or. When you are stuck in the middle by not making a resolute decision, you become extremely prone to being persuaded by "experts" and hoodwinked by the medical mafia. When it comes to poisoning the body, there is no middle ground.
i'm curious where is the tipping point when I won't feel like a heretic to say I'm concerned vaccines cause the spikes in chronic conditions we see and may have a part to play in all the picky eating, food allergies, and adhd, asthma and ... autism?
Also, even when the scientists developing a vaccine are full of integrity, mistakes can be made in the manufacturing process. And mistakes can be made by the nurses who administer them.
Stellar post as usual!
In my experience in both medical and non-medical research it is very easy to get very smart people to focus on a tiny problem and miss the big picture.
Injected vaccines are the worst mistake in medicine
https://zenodo.org/records/15844676
Injected vaccines are unsafe even if the manufacturing process is immaculate.
I would sure like them to prove that their vaccines are not toxic poisons. The ingredient list says otherwise and that is only the known chemical poisons...not what they hide.
Yes. The risks of such events are not included in computations of risk of vaccines. So we consistently underestimate the risks of vaccines from the recipients perspective.
https://substack.com/@davidwaterman3/note/p-190731638?r=15vmqh
Getting us divided on vaccines is part of play. The vaccinated are mostly fine with it since they’re chemically lobotomized and the unvaccinated will be forced into it anyway.
On whether vaccine research "replaces older problems with new ones," I'd have said no. For the question contains the unexamined, dangerous premise that vaccines have solved problems.
Vaccines are poisons, and nothing but. They cause cancer, dementia, autism, allergies, and almost every chronic disease of mankind. Reductions in disease mortality are due, not to vaccines, but to better sanitation, housing, diet, and working conditions -- to class war from below.
Vaccine "scientists" obscure this social history, because vaccines are class war from above.
I agree. In the wording of the survey question it is clear that the pollsters are just skimming the surface of public opinion. Obviously it would have been interesting to see how people responded to a much more direct question like, "Do you think vaccines have done more harm than good?"
It's part of their playbook. If you don't ask won't know.
In a way what happened in 2020-2021 and what happened on 9/11 has been good in that people have woken up to the corruption that has been going on for such a long time. From these incidents arose lack of trust and many people then began to look at such events as the Kennedy assassination, the attack on the USS Liberty and Pearl Harbor etc. Finally learning what Reagan said was true "The nine most terrifying words in the English language: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Agreed. The level of deception and subversion is massive.
"In the annual public surveys about trust and reputation, journalists and the media have regularly fallen near the very bottom, often just above Congress. But in this year’s Gallup poll, we have managed to fall below Congress."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/28/jeff-bezos-washington-post-trust/
Bravo, Madhava, from fellow Penn Anesthesia grad.
More docs need to leave the system and do concierge medicine because that is the only way they can free their bonds. And people need to stay attuned to their state deliberations on the vaccine schedule because what ever fluff comes from Washington (like the discontinuation of neonate Hep B) means nothing if you have the state medical societies lobbying to keep certain vaccines on the schedule.
In my experience more nurses in the last 10 years are agreeing with parents who are refusing childhood vaccines.
It appears that vaccines have been rigorously tested for decades. The current autism statistics, chronic autoimmune diseases and the proliferation of new biologics for children speak for themselves. We are spellbound.
Thank you Dr Setty for this posting. It will remain impossible to trust the pharmaceutical scientist as long as they refuse to look at the cumulative effects of the current mass vaccination schedule. I do trust the science, but the research on this topic remains undone. I feel this is the only way for the pharmaceutical to regain the public trust they have lost over the last five years.
Madhava, thank you so much for reading your posts rather than using AI. I could listen to you (and Joe Martino) all day! I trust both of you to deliver intelligent, thought-provoking and factual information. 👍🏻👍🏻
Learning to think logically has to be the basis of education and we have stopped teaching this important process. I did not vaccinate my child and he's a healthy young man that has not been sick one day during K through 12. I have had two German Shepherds who have vaccine damage. If I did not learn from this it would be a failure of the educational system. I have more books on vaccines then most people have in their libraries. I used to think polio was the only good vaccine but it is evident that we were lied to many many times. Who will take care of all of our autistic children?
Honestly,70% that distrusts "our" medical leaders and medical institutions is not enough to affect real change. Ninety,90% of us disaffected enough will be what it takes to shake most of the grifters from the bushes. Those leeches,so wealthy by slaying and crippling so many others,are not going to 'go quietly' . We owe it to ourselves and our future to not sit quietly in this face of evil. Silence IS aquiescence.
The poll results demonstrate that 70% still trust the medical establishment.
However 30% of the population is very capable of upending the system, especially if more than half of the other 70% is ambivalent. As I mentioned, the signs point to the fact that the 30% is going to keep growing.
“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
― Mark Twain
Not skeptics. We know they are nothing but poison…
Which is why I particularly liked, and like to quote, one response on this platform by a very wise person who said: "I have said I am not anti-vax but anti-stupid as I don't believe in poisoning myself as the way to good health."
We'll see come the next great fake pandemic. Saying I am skeptical of vaccines and still going ahead and letting my child be poisoned by them is not the same thing. It must be either or. When you are stuck in the middle by not making a resolute decision, you become extremely prone to being persuaded by "experts" and hoodwinked by the medical mafia. When it comes to poisoning the body, there is no middle ground.
Bad Karma for Big Pharma!
i'm curious where is the tipping point when I won't feel like a heretic to say I'm concerned vaccines cause the spikes in chronic conditions we see and may have a part to play in all the picky eating, food allergies, and adhd, asthma and ... autism?