This post has been updated from the original to correct an error that an alert reader pointed out in my NNV calculation. The correct NNV= 1414. The derivation is as follows:
Once again we see the usual use of emotive words, practising fearmongering overtly as well as subtly, and omitting risks as well as risk/benefit calculations. Good thing you switched the focus to how their lack of comprehensiveness and transparency is what is really scary.
"Unless you know what is the vaccination rate of all children in these age groups you cannot determine if the vaccination is doing any good.
Why would the CDC epidemiologist charged with informing ACIP members leave this out? Did she expect that the Advisory Panel wouldn’t ask about it? She probably did, and she was probably right."
This was exactly what I was thinking as soon as I read that paragraph in which Offit quoted the info Havers relied on for her opinion.
We shoujd be scared at the utter incompetence of our “experts” that were “educated” at our failing universities. The scariest aspect is that Haver truly believes she is correct & Offit is either just as ignorant or that compromised. Have you seen Plotkin’s 9 hr under oath testimony by Aaron Siri? His incompetence is shrouded by his god complex. He cannot provide proof that vaccines work but he just knows they do because he’s administered all kinds of sickening experiments & been paid millions to do so. These are stupid people with power.
There is no reason to even look into Haver's presentation. Her charts and statistics mean nothing. There were no children hospitalised with covid. Covid cases and deaths never happened. The only way anyone was diagnosed with covid was a fraudulent PCR "test" that doesn't test for the virus. Her presentation was just another attempt to coerce people into taking vaccines that are dangerous and unnecessary to keep the cash cow rolling.
People are dying of ABV (anything but the vaccine).
And even if we pretend that the kids in the hospital with respiratory illnesses during that time had covid, these weren't previously healthy children. A pediatric respiratory therapist acquaintance of mine told me that the “children” she was treating were the ones who would be expected to have respiratory issues, regardless of diagnosis with a “viral infection,” for example, a 600-lb teenager.
Good point, yeah I wonder why a 600 lb person of any age might be ill?
Obesity is a big problem that needs to be addressed just the same, but I think scraping the childhood vaccine schedule would be the first step to ending the chronic illness epidemic in children.
Ok so they were hospitalized "with" COVID (supposedly). What were they hospitalized FOR? Healthy children simply don't die of COVID. It's the old trick they keep playing, get positive tests for people hospitalized for other things entirely and play it up as a "COVID hospitalization".
According to Havers and Offit, "unvaccinated" means "no record of Covid-19 vaccine in the past 12 months" or "greater than or equal to 1 dose in the past 12 months, but no 2023-2024 dose."
This does NOT mean unvaccinated to most people. Plus, how many of those kids had bad reactions to earlier doses, which resulted in their parents not getting them the latest doses? Perhaps the earlier doses even led to their higher likelihood of being hospitalized "with covid."
This post has been updated from the original to correct an error that an alert reader pointed out in my NNV calculation. The correct NNV= 1414. The derivation is as follows:
Hospitalization Rate amongst Vaccinated= 5/13,000 = 0.385/1000
Hospitalization Rate amongst Unvaccinated = 95/87,000 = 1.092/1000
Vaccinating 100K would result in 100(1.092 - 0.385) = 70.7 fewer cases
NNV= 100K/71 = 1,414
The published article has been updated with the Correction noted in the text. Thank you Sander Greenland, DrPH, MD (hon)
"industry spokespersons posing as legitimate scientists like Dr. Paul Offit"
Most accurate description of him I have ever heard.
Once again we see the usual use of emotive words, practising fearmongering overtly as well as subtly, and omitting risks as well as risk/benefit calculations. Good thing you switched the focus to how their lack of comprehensiveness and transparency is what is really scary.
"Unless you know what is the vaccination rate of all children in these age groups you cannot determine if the vaccination is doing any good.
Why would the CDC epidemiologist charged with informing ACIP members leave this out? Did she expect that the Advisory Panel wouldn’t ask about it? She probably did, and she was probably right."
This was exactly what I was thinking as soon as I read that paragraph in which Offit quoted the info Havers relied on for her opinion.
We shoujd be scared at the utter incompetence of our “experts” that were “educated” at our failing universities. The scariest aspect is that Haver truly believes she is correct & Offit is either just as ignorant or that compromised. Have you seen Plotkin’s 9 hr under oath testimony by Aaron Siri? His incompetence is shrouded by his god complex. He cannot provide proof that vaccines work but he just knows they do because he’s administered all kinds of sickening experiments & been paid millions to do so. These are stupid people with power.
That deposition is an eye opener, as is the one with Catherine Edwards. Ghastly people.
My relatives are the same way. They simply cannot conceive that they might be missing some critical details. Ghastly is apt.
At least you found a polite AI bot!
Yup. However it was the politeness that was the tell in this case.
Nice post. Very pointed and succinct - including Dr Greenland's math correction.
Pretty funny this lady needed to resign...wonder what she got paid for it too.
There is no reason to even look into Haver's presentation. Her charts and statistics mean nothing. There were no children hospitalised with covid. Covid cases and deaths never happened. The only way anyone was diagnosed with covid was a fraudulent PCR "test" that doesn't test for the virus. Her presentation was just another attempt to coerce people into taking vaccines that are dangerous and unnecessary to keep the cash cow rolling.
People are dying of ABV (anything but the vaccine).
And even if we pretend that the kids in the hospital with respiratory illnesses during that time had covid, these weren't previously healthy children. A pediatric respiratory therapist acquaintance of mine told me that the “children” she was treating were the ones who would be expected to have respiratory issues, regardless of diagnosis with a “viral infection,” for example, a 600-lb teenager.
Good point, yeah I wonder why a 600 lb person of any age might be ill?
Obesity is a big problem that needs to be addressed just the same, but I think scraping the childhood vaccine schedule would be the first step to ending the chronic illness epidemic in children.
100% right on the facts.
Ok so they were hospitalized "with" COVID (supposedly). What were they hospitalized FOR? Healthy children simply don't die of COVID. It's the old trick they keep playing, get positive tests for people hospitalized for other things entirely and play it up as a "COVID hospitalization".
Which even Fauci openly admitted was happening.
According to Havers and Offit, "unvaccinated" means "no record of Covid-19 vaccine in the past 12 months" or "greater than or equal to 1 dose in the past 12 months, but no 2023-2024 dose."
This does NOT mean unvaccinated to most people. Plus, how many of those kids had bad reactions to earlier doses, which resulted in their parents not getting them the latest doses? Perhaps the earlier doses even led to their higher likelihood of being hospitalized "with covid."
If anything scares me, it is offit, the HHS, FDA, CDC and the entire medical mafia cult of death.
dont forget the healthy vaccinee effect