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James Rintoul's avatar

First of all, congratulations on the Turning the Tide event, even though I was looking forward to it becoming a major national event before it got blown out of the water by the Kirk assassination. Anyway, I am so glad you are tracking this. I am as well, almost in spite of myself. The last thing I need is to get entangled puzzling over an official narrative that keeps making less sense and unravelling before my eyes, but it's just impossible to ignore all the bizarre inconsistencies in the story and as you point out, the mysterious absence of what should be normal procedures. Where is the bullet indeed? Where is the exit wound if he was shot from the front? And on and on. I've been listening to Candace Owen tear into it. He was her friend and she's not letting it go. If only we had had this level of Internet activism and alternative media in late September, 2001, the full story on that might have emerged much sooner, or at least there would have been a solidly-informed segment of the public who would not have been so easily sidelined. Anyway, I hope and expect that the momentum from the Turning the Tide gathering will continue to grow. Unless of course Bibi Netanyahu publicly states Israel didn't do it, then we can put it all behind us.

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Madhava Setty, MD's avatar

Ha!

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currer's avatar

Yes, it has certainly outed the sleeper intelligence operatives and the controlled opposition. Looks like nearly everyone is controlled opposition. Many of them write on substack, I notice.

Have you seen this monstrosity?

https://theofficialmahareport.substack.com/p/at-maha-action-event-calls-for-bipartisan

Kennedy, Malone Dr Oz and Russell Brand, all in a row, beatifying Kirk.

How's this for astounding profanity?

"Russell Brand spoke next, carrying the theme of what he dubbed “coming together in veracity” to its zenith in a 15-minute monologue steeped in Christian appeals."

....." I’ve surrendered to Christ…. "

You shall know them by their profanation of truth. A fake claim of religiosity is used by these people, I think it is a form of satanic blasphemy they use to unite them. A ritual desecration.

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9/11 Revisionist's avatar

Give this a quick study;

9/11 Truth Suppression Timeline

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin

Article: https://911revision.substack.com/p/911-truth-suppression-timeline

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URsomoney's avatar

Charlie, always a truth teller & a persuasive one at that, was not only discovering but speaking inconvenient truths regarding the powers that be. Problem is, charlie was uncontrollable via vice, malice or blackmail hence the need to silence him in the only other way they know. RIP Charlie Kirk.

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URsomoney's avatar

Also could not shake the thought that Charlie’s assassination killed two birds with one stone. All eyes off 9/11 for at least one more year. “Turning the Tide” & tucker Carlsons 9/11 documentary were sidelined. They would’ve exposed Israeli involvement.…& then who knows - JFK? Just saying

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Madhava Setty, MD's avatar

My gut is that this assassination had nothing to do with distracting us from the 9/11 story. I sense that the deep state is in panic mode. When Kirk declined the carrot they had to bring out the stick and quickly. Once a bribe is offered there's no going back for either party.

My colleagues at the International Center for 9/11 Justice have been working with Tucker's producers. The five part series is still set to be aired next week as far as I know.

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URsomoney's avatar

I’m hopeful that his documentary is impactful as I have a lot of minds to open in my own family. The only one on board with me is one that worked for the government…imagine that.

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

“ I sense that the deep state is in panic mode.”

Could one conclude the same circling the 9/11 event?

Ukraine?

Vietnam?

Libya?

List might be endless

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Terry Garrett's avatar

The articulate presentation of questionable circumstances is much appreciated. Thank you. As noted, it will be interesting - hopefully not again frustrating - to see if the officially touted "transparency" around this tragic event is forthcoming or if reality is swept under the rug as seems to be the recent pattern.

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The Underdog's avatar

Thank you for including other points that my article had missed.

"Should these questions be answered before “allowing” Utah Valley University to pave over the courtyard where Kirk was assassinated?"

Barely 5 days and they're already tampering with the crime scene? Is that how policing works now, they allow people to tamper with crime scenes?

"We now know, thanks to the crack detective work by the Feds in pulling this from a chat on Discord"

The image format they display isn't the Discord format. The format they display is the format used by text messaging tools, such as mobile phones, WhatsApp, etc.

Discord has a dark background and does not use a 'text message app' layout, but a stacked message layout. Here's an example:

https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/625fe439fb70a9d901e138ab/650c0406ebc263099fd19bf2_What%20is%20Discord.png

It annoys me the FBI and the media continue to lie by claiming the presented messages are 'from Discord'. No, they are not, and Discord are even on record stating they do not exist on Discord!

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Madhava Setty, MD's avatar

yes. the conversation, whether on Discord or not is clearly make believe IMO.

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Tina Stolberg's avatar

Upon reading the exchange btw Robinson and his roommate, I too had a feeling the discord chat is fake.

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Red-Pilled ER Nurse's avatar

Unsatisfactorily answered questions surely do abound.

What in the actual is that implausibly contrived saga supposedly tapped out on the fly by young Mr. Robinson?

What about the minimal visible damage to Charlie Kirk's body? My understanding of the kinetic energy carried by a .30-06 bullet and the damage it would do to the human neck leaves me dubious that weapon was used in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

What is this strangely cherry picked video evidence and stills from closed circuit camera's that has been used to shape the public's curated knowledge.

So many more questions.

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SmithFS's avatar

Yes, the security camera that showed video of him running across the roof had a bird's eye view of him in the shooting position. So why did they not release that portion of the video, the most important part, but showed the part where he was running away? We still have never seen anything with Robinson actually holding that weapon.

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Alice Hesselrode's avatar

I am always enthused when I see an email from you. I know I will read calm clarity. Love this title what is real. There is a lot to be suspicious about. Start with the timing of Sept 10. Camera behind Charlie removed. Crime scene not secured and cleaned up too quickly like on 9/11. The most interesting of the many videos I've watched shows a man in a brown shirt and sun glasses at front of stage which appears to have a palm pistol between his fingers at exact moment Charlie is shot. Also guy name Valhalla demonstrates what a 30-6 shot would do, would have blown his head off. Kash looks like a deer in the headlights. No truth is forthcoming just like JFK, RFK, 9/11, con-vid.

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Media Luna's avatar

Thank you for this article dear dr. Setty. You are one of those writers from whom I look forward to reading their input and thoughts. Your questions are right on the target.

(Did you notice that the length of the BBC clip of Ehud Barak is 9:11 minutes?)

Because of the tragic death of Charlie Kirk last week I was one of many whose focus was derailed and I did not follow the 9/11 Turning Tide event. Do you have a text of your introductory remarks? Will there be a video even if it wasn’t streamed? I will check the videos. 🙏🏼

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Madhava Setty, MD's avatar

I don't know if the A/V team has a local recording of the proceedings. There was too much going on for them. I didn't ask.

I do have most of my speech on paper. I will probably publish it here soon.

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Media Luna's avatar

Looking forward to your post.

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Marilyn Langlois's avatar

I believe all the video from Turning the Tide is available. Go to ic911.org

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Madhava Setty, MD's avatar

Thanks for the link. Sadly the first ten minutes of my introduction have not been recorded

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Dr. Setty,

Thx as always for the perspective, the context and comparisons between 9/eleven and the CK loss of life (all despicable).

With 9/11 Patriot Act already drawn up and ready to go well in advance, and now AG Pam Bondi setting the table for suppressing free speech, who will benefit (more), the international crime Cabal who fashion imperialism, colonialism, world-wide tyranny, or Is-Real?

Per Jonathan Cooks recent posting (9-10) he believes that the former gain incredibly, while Is-Real will continue their role as ME destabilizer, protecting the value of the almighty $$, which is tied to oil.

https://www.unz.com/jcook/the-billionaire-class-want-you-thinking-israel-controls-the-west/

The Billionaire Class Want You Thinking Israel Controls the West

“Western elites don’t care what you think or say, so long as you don’t notice that they are the ones making money from a genocide, asset-stripping western economies and trashing our planet”

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Jo in veritatis inquisitione's avatar

"who will benefit (more), the international crime Cabal who fashion imperialism, colonialism, world-wide tyranny, or Is-Real?"

May be, just may be, the two work hand in hand or - even worst - are the same?

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currer's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBiTh7qYT3U

Brian Berletic is very clear on how the US uses proxies in war and uses Irsrael to separate itself from exposure of its own hegemonic ambitions.. Israel is totally militarily dependent on the US. Wake up US this is you not Israel.

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AJR's avatar
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“Personally, I regard conservatism vs liberalism as a dichotomy that actually serves to avert attention from the real battle: a growing authoritarian state against a population that is willingly surrendering their rights in exchange for a sense of security.”

The above statement is exactly what has become of America! Without any doubt whatsoever, the initiatives, the policies and actions and the simple fact that “Israel” whose been finally called out for committing, not Genocide, rather something much worse, called “Child-Ritual” killings!

Because 47% of the population in Palestine are under the age of 18, what is happening is horrific! The killings of women and children should NEVER BE TOLERATED! EVER!

Yet these monsters continue bombing an already bombed out, beyond recognition, bombed out buildings over and over again! Good God what is wrong with the world today for NOT STOPPING THIS? What’s wrong with our President? Is he part of this? Something tells me yes he is! Talk about a bait and switch?

Why is this is worse than Genocide? Because Israel wants the world to see what they’re doing and how evil they truly are! Genocide could have done by poisoning the water supply or some other way, not so noticeable. Instead they choose to attack the rightful owners of Palestine, the Palestinian People, who have occupied the land with more than 2/3 the population being Palestinians. Yes they are, they were the majority! How dare Israel! These are criminals and they’re certainly not “Gods Chosen People!” Not at all! Satans? Absolutely positively yes! Their actions have spoken clearly and for decades mind you!

It’s despicable what’s been happening and anyone who’s followed these atrocities knows what I’m talking about!

How can this still be tolerated? Why has our President and Congress vetoed ceasefire’s and why have American taxpayers dollars continued funding Israel? Why?

What is happening, referring back to the above cut and pasted statement, clearly explains, exactly what’s happening.

There’s been three major human atrocities committed since lockdowns and are being normalized!

1. Child-Ritual Killings

2. Deaths by mRNA’s

3. Pedophilia Coverup

Think about why, these three atrocious attacks against humanity, woman and children, young and old, have become exposed since lockdowns?

It’s to normalize them. When our own President is completely SILENT about such horrific crimes against humanity, what’s this say about,

1. Our President’s complicity?

2. Why he has been silent about all three?

These are not normal questions Americans should have to ask their president, or our leaders, our President should be in front of these atrocities, assuring the American people of his intentions! But not our President! Nope! Unfortunately, something far worse is at stake and at play here.

Remember when your mother or father gave you the silent treatment? Think about how that made you feel? Well, it’s sort of the same thing with our President. Many people are angry, many more people have been silenced.

People are on walking on eggshells, so to speak. There’s a tremendous amount of defensive pressure which causes people to comply. This is exactly what is happening and it’s working.

Of course there’s always exceptions to this rule but for the most part, the majority of Americans have become so docile and compliant, they’re causing many people to lose their tempers. It’s quite amazing how psychological warfare tactics can impact and take its toll on society as a whole.

Now what? What’s next? Maybe some sort of holographic alien invasion? Maybe something similar to what happened in Miami a couple years ago?

Whatever does happen, and I’m confident something will happen, I’m also convinced, the majority of Americans will comply, out of fear as fear is a tremendous psychological warfare tactic to get people to comply! With whatever the situation warrants.

Welcome to the “Surveillance-State” of America, 1984 style. I left Israel out of this post deliberately, if anyone who reads this is wondering why. Not out of fear, rather because the truth of our ills today are directly connected to Israel!

Americans have

been woken, woken to

some degree, certainly about this evilness plaguing our nation and how controlling Israel has taken over our Government, our nation! My

one question is,

why hasn’t the

world stopped,

what’s happening in Palestine? Why?

I pray to God,

what will ultimately become of Israel, for committing such atrocities, God willing, God will end this monstrously-evil Netanyahu and this most demonic and evil regime, I’ve ever witnessed in my lifetime, once and for all! The evidence is beyond compelling, overwhelming and I’ve chosen not to rewrite, what’s already been written!

The world doesn’t deserve this, (quite frankly I am sick and tired of my hard earned tax dollars funding these evil bastards) nor does America deserve this kind of control, over our nation and our Govt. and over the world!

Is our government part of the problem? Unfortunately, I believe the answer is yes! Our government is so knee deep involved with Israel as I’ve ever seen before!

Whether Americans can stop this totalitarian, New World Order of control from becoming reality remains to be seen. Without true America First Leadership, this will only get worse! So NO I don’t believe things will get better! Not at all. We’ve all been played, played big time!

Whether America survives the evil of this Netanyahu regime, also remains to be seen! One thing is quite clear, “we’ve all been played!” The question remains, can America be saved from either? Seems unlikely for that to happen.

God Help Us All!

AJR

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Jo in veritatis inquisitione's avatar

Agreed specially about this: "These are criminals and they’re certainly not “Gods Chosen People!”" May be to understand we all have to wake up and simply follow the money. Who is immensely rich and powerfull?

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AJR's avatar

I should clarify that I’m not in any way saying all Jewish people are bad nor am I saying they’re evil. I have many Jewish friends who cannot defend what this Zionist evil Netanyahu regime has been doing to innocent Palestinians.

It’s become so upsetting for many people knowing what is happening and finding out that 31 states have criminalized criticizing Israel.

You can’t make this stuff up. Until you understand what’s really happening.

Thanks again Jo in veritatis.

AJR

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AJR's avatar

Exactly Jo in veritatis. It’s taken me nearly 50 years to realize how bad these people are. The biggest reason being, was because Robert Maxwell, Ghisliane Maxwell’s father owned the publishing company who published and provided all the educational material throughout America’s K-12 Public Education System.

I was as raised to believe so many, lies by omission, we were never taught the truth throughout America’s public school

System.

Now I understand why my generation and generations before me have no idea how badly we’ve been duped into believing Israel and the Israeli people are Gods chosen ones.

Nothing is further from the truth today, now that many people are opening their minds.

Thank you Jo in veritatis. I appreciate your feedback.

AJR

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Rachel's avatar

We need to start talking to our neighbors. We need to start to talk to the people physically around us.

It would be just one way to actively oppose these nonstop attemtps to bait us into hating each other and blaming each other for misfortune caused by the banking cartels/deep state/globalists/empire managers/owners of financial capital.

Thanks for your writing.

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IAS's avatar

That is the very thing "they " dont want.....

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Rachel's avatar

Yes!

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Chris Cochrane's avatar

I understand that the shot was fired from about 250 yards with a scope. That is reasonable for a person who practiced with that weapon and could factor in elevation, wind etc but I haven’t heard that he sited in the weapon at a shooting range. Was the bullet found or fragments found? Tyler R may be willing to provide evidence that he was expert enough to accomplish his objectives. With a trained police force of 23 they didn’t have a couple of drones in the air surveilling the crowd and environment after what happened with Trump?

Another topic, Fox News investigation of 9/11 on 12/12/2001 through 12/15 providing proof of Israel’s planning of that attack. It’s in cyberspace and can be viewed. A quote from Brit Hume,” evidence linking Israel to 9/11 classified “!

Thank you for your work,

Sam C

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SmithFS's avatar

Also I don't see how he could dismantle a weapon like that, mishandle it trying to carry it in a terrible way, abused it doing all that in a hurry, and it still will remain sited in. Anytime I do anything like that, even give a rifle a bad bump, and the scope goes out of alignment.

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Marilyn Langlois's avatar

Thank you for raising these important questions. The timing alone is very suspicious to me, designed to deflect all attention away from huge strides in the 9/11 truth movement revealed that day and the next at the Turning the Tide conference plus Carlson’s new 9/11 docuseries.

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New Lindisfarne's avatar

"Only puny secrets need protection. Big secrets are protected by public incredulity."

—Marshall McLuhan

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currer's avatar

Utah Valley University:

Training Ground for Intelligence and Defense

Utah Valley University functions less like a commuter school and more like a regional security outpost. Through its Center for National Security Studies (CNSS) and its role in the Intermountain Intelligence, Industry, and Security Consortium (I3SC), UVU links directly with Utah State University’s Centre for Anticipatory Intelligence (CAI).

UVU pivoted hard into applied AI, cybersecurity, and homeland security studies. Students were pushed into pipelines not toward philosophy or literature, but toward managing biometric grids, working on remote sensing projects, and learning how to handle surveillance infrastructure.

At the same time, UVU’s Center for National Security Studies sends students to programs like the Cambridge Security Initiative, chaired by former MI6 chief Sir Richard Dearlove. A political science major recently called it a ‘once-in-a-lifetime chance to learn tradecraft’.

https://morganc000.substack.com/p/utah-valley-university

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currer's avatar

While everyone argues over missing bullets, weapons trajectories and weird Mormon tranny love affairs, they miss the obvious: this happened on the grounds of an intelligence-training hub packed with surveillance, deepfake, and cyber programs.

Its Centre for National Security Studies runs influence and visual operations and trains law enforcement and aviation personnel.

They ran a bomb simulation in June and deployed response assets for that exercise including a Boston dynamics robot dog.

This university and its military industrial complex’s industry partners have a direct interest in the mass-surveillance systems such incidents normalize. They are training the people who will operate those systems—and we are showing them how easily we are duped.

https://morganc000.substack.com/p/utah-valley-university

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IAS's avatar

Excellent point. I am sure youve seen the footage of the dismantling of the site, digging up and concrete being poured over the area where Kirk was seated....There are so many indicators here....not least that weird memorial service...Where are you on dead or alive? I am using what I think I know to assess...the only thing I have is visceral intuition and my built in bullshit meter which has been pinned through all of this and more...

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currer's avatar

Its clearly a deep state operation, either as a distraction or to pass oppressive laws.

We can discuss all the details of how it was carried out, but we can never reach certainty on this. I think Kirk is still alive. FWIW The book that was published on his death 24 hrs ahead of the event was written by Anastasia J Casey.

Anastasia means resurrection.

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IAS's avatar

Fascinating ...I had heard of the book on Amazon prior to event....Have heard more and more details that leave you more and more incredulous....Erika's parents had or have a company AZ Tech a govt defense contractor...her Dad created and headed the isreali division of Raytheon...mom worked for D o D and Homeland Sec....no pics of Erika pregnant....Charlies K's dad was lead architect for the Trump tower.....also Erika was in part a product of trump she was a model in one of his pageants...Everything about this is so off....and they are right up in our grill with it.....what will they do with Kirk if alive? My thinking was he had no "kompramat" on anyone , unlike epstein, so kirk can be removed....in the end Im not certain at all...

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Nathan H.'s avatar

But with all that technology the official released video of the ‘assassination’ when viewed slowly frame by frame looks like amateur CGI.

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Nathan H.'s avatar

All that technology, hundreds of students who document everything on their iPhones, campus surveillance cameras everywhere and not a single clear image of the murder. Go figure.

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Shirley Bloethe's avatar

I have been thinking the same thing! WHERE are ALL the videos?? inconceivable !

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