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Lundy Bancroft's avatar

I had a friendly debate one night with a friend who's a mathematician. He was arguing that everything could ultimately be understood, that science just hasn't figured it all out yet but we're on our way. I asked him, "Isn't it true that every scientific answer opens up multiple new questions?" He agreed that yes, that was definitely true. So I asked, "Well, if questions multiply faster than answers do, how could we ever reach some kind of ultimate answer?" His arguments were the epitome of how logic, if it's applied rigidly, becomes illogical (just as you pointed out how rigid rationality turns irrational).

Happily, he left that night saying he needed to reconsider some things.

I'm a great believer in logic and I don't believe it should ever be abandoned, just as illogic should never be embraced. But that's different from claiming that logic can account for everything, or that it's all we need for a fulfilling life, or that it's somehow a higher principle than, say, love (which to me is the highest). Logic is an essential tool in figuring out what makes sense, but there are things that are beyond logic that we need to grasp, and that requires tuning into other aspects of our awareness and of our capacity to understand. And that realm often goes beyond what can be captured in words or in a logical formula. It doesn't contradict logic -- it isn't illogical -- but rather is beyond it.

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"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed. This insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms—this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I belong in the ranks of devoutly religious men." This is a quote from Albert Einstein, taken from the internet but actually genuine, surprisingly enough, extracted from a 1930 essay entitled "What I Believe". See also The New Quotable Einstein, p 199, where it appears in a slightly different form. I specify all this because the great physicist has had more ridiculous and/or implausible quotes fathered on him than probably any other man. With that said, I feel the quote echoes very beautifully and succinctly the spirit of Madhava's post, which is beautiful in itself.

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