Note how many medical doctors have succumbed to "adverse events," including death, after Covidiot injections, especially in 'Chinada'. Or how many naturopathic, homeopathic, herbalist, and other non-compliant health practitioner, have met unfortunate circumstances &/or financial ruin in the US...Just sayin'.
Dr Setty, you are a clear-thinking, brilliant hero in my book. Blessings. 🙏
You have a gift for expressing my life long beliefs after 79 years of exposure to the "medical profession". Thank you Madhava for being such an eloquent writer. I hope I can assume you are a wonderful medical professional!
You mentioned Dr. Wakefield. A number of years ago, I got curious and read the article that Dr. Wakefield authored that made him the target of so much vilification. I recall thinking that it was remarkable that his mere suggestion that there might be a potential connection between the gut health and autism stirred up so much controversy, scorn and derision. He drew no definite conclusions. He just made an observation and suggested this was an area worth looking into.
I suspect that most people that heap scorn on Dr. Wakefield have never read his article and are just parroting and amplifying something they heard from other sources.
Correct. Wakefield’s conclusions based on his small case series were very reasonable and logical. The response from the establishment is more telling than the data. Many doctors I know know of the infamous Dr. Wakefield and the “thousands of preventable deaths he caused” by making up data. None have ever read his paper. I think you will enjoy reading Tess’s piece on him.
Wakefield is the fallen angel who betrayed the Church’s trust.
There is a record of him being a pharma consultant and the amounts he was paid from 2021-2023. But even without such a record, all this posts already make it very evident that he's a paid pharma troll. They all actually repeat the same tired lines likely written for them by some clever PR person.
“How strange it is that, no matter what the professional or scientific attainments of a man may be, no matter how he may have previously been honored, nor what positions of preferment and trust he may have occupied, the moment he says a word against vaccination he is denounced as not knowing anything of the subject, and not being an authority in medicine.”[11]
This institutional reflex reveals vaccination's unique status not as a mere medical procedure, but as an unquestionable ideology. The pattern persists unchanged through generations: credentials matter only when they confirm the approved narrative. Dissent, no matter how well-reasoned or evidence-based, triggers automatic disqualification from serious discourse. Gunn's words stand as both prophecy and indictment—a century-old warning about the dogmatism that continues to masquerade as science.
The charts don't lie: when scarlet fever deaths vanished without a vaccine, when whooping cough became manageable before DTP shots, the writing was on the wall. Modern medicine has rewritten this history, substituting scientific triumphalism for uncomfortable truths about what actually saves lives—real, genuine health, which is something you can’t get in a pill or a shot.
My first wheel of life was in social psychology and I think about Asch and conformity often. I'm no longer in the field, but one thing sticks with me : people's behavior, thoughts and emotions are often affected by SITUATIONS more than people's personalities. As you've eloquently alluded to, it's not that most pro-vaxxers are jerks. It's the situation that makes them act that way.
Yes, pro-vaxxers sometimes say very mean things, but they are so certain in their beliefs that they think it's justified to say cruel things, to ruin careers, etc. They're not cruel people, or at least no more than anti-vaxxers. They've simply been primed to respond strongly to dissenting opinion. Add to that, if you try to give them evidence that challenges their views, they'll Google it and find 20 fact checks that *supposedly* dispute the evidence. They may read the first paragraph of the first of 20 fact checks. They never read all the way to the end where many fact check conclusions totally rebut the fact check headline.
The entire Western media and "worldwide web" is controlled to preempt that one possible voice of dissent.
Thank you for your astute observations. The religion is Vaccinism. Its dogma is Worshipping the Needle. The reputation of heretics will be burned at the stake. Welcome to the new Inquisition. But wait.... Resistance is afoot and growing!
I fully agree with your eye-opening analysis. I have been through the same realizations.
The moment we understand and see what’s happening, we cannot unseen it and the temptation to make everyone else see it is burning. However, this is a very complex situation. Thousands of people working in the various departments of HHS and the biopharma medical establishment need to be brought on the realization that the system they been part of and working in good faith, is operating on significantly wrong premises. As the system has been corrupted for decades, this cannot be course corrected in just a few months. As long as we are moving in the wright direction, we should trust the process.
Yes. We need to really understand the complexity of the situation we are in. The cognitive distortions pervasive in the medical community won’t go away with new leadership and policies. The vax anti vax battle is won over decades not over a year or two. This is chess, not checkers
Agreed 100%. The emergence of “consensus science” behaves just like religious dogma. Though, echoing Asch’s experiments, we actually don’t know (can’t prove a negative) that the medical system and profession hasn’t been infiltrated by people intentionally giving the wrong answer.
As long as profit is the motive, you don't need infiltrators. Especially with the economic mess in the US, people will do many things to keep their home and lifestyle safe.
I *do* agree with you that there are deliberate liars. But I think the majority follow the path of least resistance. Twenty years ago, whistleblowing was risky. Nowadays, it's out of the question for most people. If they speak out, they lose everything. Even I would struggle to speak up in that environment. I'd end up quitting. And thus the lack of dissent continues, as dissenters choose to leave the situation instead of giving up their entire life and livelihood to expose the lies.
Yes. This is an important observation. The moment we malign intentions we have destroyed any possibility of connecting with the well intending but confused majority of doctors. Only crazy antivaxxers would be stupid enough to accuse a million doctors of breaking their oath and wishing ill upon he public. Why would we ever listen to their analysis around vaccine safety? And so the divide deepens.
I was using PubMed a lot after I was diagnosed with CLL 5 years ago. I thought it was the Holy Grail of medical information until I read a study there stating that unmutated CLL patients have better outcomes than mutated. Well, I knew that was wrong, because every other study says mutated patients have a much better prognosis. That's what I am. How could a mistake like that ever get past "peer review"? Now I'm much more skeptical of "scientific studies".
Great post.
What do they say.. science advances one funeral at a time..
(perhaps the covid injections are speeding up the advancement? 😉)
Note how many medical doctors have succumbed to "adverse events," including death, after Covidiot injections, especially in 'Chinada'. Or how many naturopathic, homeopathic, herbalist, and other non-compliant health practitioner, have met unfortunate circumstances &/or financial ruin in the US...Just sayin'.
Dr Setty, you are a clear-thinking, brilliant hero in my book. Blessings. 🙏
You have a gift for expressing my life long beliefs after 79 years of exposure to the "medical profession". Thank you Madhava for being such an eloquent writer. I hope I can assume you are a wonderful medical professional!
You mentioned Dr. Wakefield. A number of years ago, I got curious and read the article that Dr. Wakefield authored that made him the target of so much vilification. I recall thinking that it was remarkable that his mere suggestion that there might be a potential connection between the gut health and autism stirred up so much controversy, scorn and derision. He drew no definite conclusions. He just made an observation and suggested this was an area worth looking into.
I suspect that most people that heap scorn on Dr. Wakefield have never read his article and are just parroting and amplifying something they heard from other sources.
Correct. Wakefield’s conclusions based on his small case series were very reasonable and logical. The response from the establishment is more telling than the data. Many doctors I know know of the infamous Dr. Wakefield and the “thousands of preventable deaths he caused” by making up data. None have ever read his paper. I think you will enjoy reading Tess’s piece on him.
Wakefield is the fallen angel who betrayed the Church’s trust.
Thank you, I will read Tess's article on Dr. Wakefield later this evening.
This Dr. Neil Stone guy must be an agent of Gavi or the UK government's "Nudge Unit."
No normal doctor would be so dedicated to social media posts against anti-vaxxers.
There is a record of him being a pharma consultant and the amounts he was paid from 2021-2023. But even without such a record, all this posts already make it very evident that he's a paid pharma troll. They all actually repeat the same tired lines likely written for them by some clever PR person.
From Roman Bystrianyk….
“How strange it is that, no matter what the professional or scientific attainments of a man may be, no matter how he may have previously been honored, nor what positions of preferment and trust he may have occupied, the moment he says a word against vaccination he is denounced as not knowing anything of the subject, and not being an authority in medicine.”[11]
This institutional reflex reveals vaccination's unique status not as a mere medical procedure, but as an unquestionable ideology. The pattern persists unchanged through generations: credentials matter only when they confirm the approved narrative. Dissent, no matter how well-reasoned or evidence-based, triggers automatic disqualification from serious discourse. Gunn's words stand as both prophecy and indictment—a century-old warning about the dogmatism that continues to masquerade as science.
The charts don't lie: when scarlet fever deaths vanished without a vaccine, when whooping cough became manageable before DTP shots, the writing was on the wall. Modern medicine has rewritten this history, substituting scientific triumphalism for uncomfortable truths about what actually saves lives—real, genuine health, which is something you can’t get in a pill or a shot.
Well said
My first wheel of life was in social psychology and I think about Asch and conformity often. I'm no longer in the field, but one thing sticks with me : people's behavior, thoughts and emotions are often affected by SITUATIONS more than people's personalities. As you've eloquently alluded to, it's not that most pro-vaxxers are jerks. It's the situation that makes them act that way.
Yes, pro-vaxxers sometimes say very mean things, but they are so certain in their beliefs that they think it's justified to say cruel things, to ruin careers, etc. They're not cruel people, or at least no more than anti-vaxxers. They've simply been primed to respond strongly to dissenting opinion. Add to that, if you try to give them evidence that challenges their views, they'll Google it and find 20 fact checks that *supposedly* dispute the evidence. They may read the first paragraph of the first of 20 fact checks. They never read all the way to the end where many fact check conclusions totally rebut the fact check headline.
The entire Western media and "worldwide web" is controlled to preempt that one possible voice of dissent.
A sobering but necessary assessment. Thanks for fighting these battles in the trenches, Madhava.
Thank you for your astute observations. The religion is Vaccinism. Its dogma is Worshipping the Needle. The reputation of heretics will be burned at the stake. Welcome to the new Inquisition. But wait.... Resistance is afoot and growing!
Excellent post Madhava
It will take a LONG time to turn it around!
We need to keep the pressure on!
I fully agree with your eye-opening analysis. I have been through the same realizations.
The moment we understand and see what’s happening, we cannot unseen it and the temptation to make everyone else see it is burning. However, this is a very complex situation. Thousands of people working in the various departments of HHS and the biopharma medical establishment need to be brought on the realization that the system they been part of and working in good faith, is operating on significantly wrong premises. As the system has been corrupted for decades, this cannot be course corrected in just a few months. As long as we are moving in the wright direction, we should trust the process.
Yes. We need to really understand the complexity of the situation we are in. The cognitive distortions pervasive in the medical community won’t go away with new leadership and policies. The vax anti vax battle is won over decades not over a year or two. This is chess, not checkers
Agreed 100%. The emergence of “consensus science” behaves just like religious dogma. Though, echoing Asch’s experiments, we actually don’t know (can’t prove a negative) that the medical system and profession hasn’t been infiltrated by people intentionally giving the wrong answer.
As long as profit is the motive, you don't need infiltrators. Especially with the economic mess in the US, people will do many things to keep their home and lifestyle safe.
I *do* agree with you that there are deliberate liars. But I think the majority follow the path of least resistance. Twenty years ago, whistleblowing was risky. Nowadays, it's out of the question for most people. If they speak out, they lose everything. Even I would struggle to speak up in that environment. I'd end up quitting. And thus the lack of dissent continues, as dissenters choose to leave the situation instead of giving up their entire life and livelihood to expose the lies.
Yes. This is an important observation. The moment we malign intentions we have destroyed any possibility of connecting with the well intending but confused majority of doctors. Only crazy antivaxxers would be stupid enough to accuse a million doctors of breaking their oath and wishing ill upon he public. Why would we ever listen to their analysis around vaccine safety? And so the divide deepens.
I was using PubMed a lot after I was diagnosed with CLL 5 years ago. I thought it was the Holy Grail of medical information until I read a study there stating that unmutated CLL patients have better outcomes than mutated. Well, I knew that was wrong, because every other study says mutated patients have a much better prognosis. That's what I am. How could a mistake like that ever get past "peer review"? Now I'm much more skeptical of "scientific studies".
"asking the opinion"
Vaccines causing autism is a fact, not opinion.
https://vinuarumugham.substack.com/p/how-vaccines-cause-autism-a-visual
https://vinuarumugham.substack.com/p/grokdo-i-agree-that-milk-protein
Great post!
The Church of Pharma is preaching and executing iatrogenesis in the name of depopulation...
Pharmakeia in the Bible. The Greek word ϕαρμακεία – pharmakĕia frequently translated as “witchcraft” or “sorcery” .
Fyi.
He's filth in my mind, literal scum of the earth in my mind. Everyone can make up their own though but they should be aware of his attachments.
Too money not honesty by the look of it.