Thank you so much for writing this splendid article, Dr. Setty.
Its analysis of the Curt Weldon interview gives us unprecedented insight into how the 9/11 media lie has set the stage for the creation of enduring international conflict.
I worked for about 12 years with Dr. David Ray Griffin on his dozen books exposing 9/11, and during that time we co-founded the international 23-member 9/11 Consensus Panel, which published its 7-year investigation in 2018 as 51 consensus points in the book "9/11 Unmasked."
These points are freely available online, and in book format on Amazon.
As you suggest, the most important issue at stake here is that we could be living in a peaceful world in which we all view one another as planetary human beings and not through the prism of malignant, unscrupulous lies.
Substack articles such as yours, and free speech social media platforms such as Twitter/X, are leading us towards the recognition of our common humanity.
Perhaps it is obvious and that's why Madhava neglected to say it in big bold letters -- I'll do so here. THE FACT THAT THE TOWERS WERE BROUGHT DOWN WITH CONTROLLED DEMOLITION MEANS THAT PEOPLE WITH INSIDER ACCESS TO THE BUILDINGS WERE CAREFULLY PLANTING EXPLOSIVES MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
Yup. I probably should have mentioned this for clarity, as well as the subsequent quandary NIST and the 9/11 Commission would have been forced to address: Even if Al Qaeda somehow got access to all three of the buildings, why then would they fly suicide missions into the TT? That is the smoking gun. Terrorists would need planes or explosives. Only conspirators with access to the buildings and control over the media would need both.
(Obviously planes themselves would not have been enough either. That's beside the point)
yes. when i first looked at this, in 03. i thought, 'ok, sure does look like a controlled demolition. but how could they get in the building?" then i learned about Marvin Bush and Wirt Walker. people who believe the official story never heard of those guys. once they do it becomes very hard to defend the official story.
What a crackpot load of gibberish, a word salad full of lots of wild claims, next to no scientific data or analysis. And full of lies. There was massive amounts of steel from the two buildings, you can see the massive steel girders blown outwards hundreds of feet as well as 200k tons of steel trucked out from the site, in a big rush to send it to China for recycling. Steel turned to dust is garbage.
Yep, the NATO/USSA military is fighting their wet dream, greatest-fantasy-ever war with Russia, and their dreams are being dashed because they can't protect Ukraine's airspace. Why don't they have "Directed Energy" weapons that are 1/1000th the power that Judy Woods proclaims that could easily knock out EVERY Russian fighter, missile, drone & helicopter from the Ukraine skies as soon as they dared to enter Ukraine airspace? Where are they, huh?
Great summation, Madhava. I am envisioning this as a turning point of sorts. I disagree that it doesn't matter anymore who did it, or that it's now relatively safe to talk about now. It's still a desperately defended narrative and has been taboo in the relative "mainstream" conversation until now. 9/11 is the lynchpin of so much treasonous deception, and so of course the official bullshit narrative will be defended with everything the Deep State can muster, but their story will eventually fall like the house of cards it is, and it's so encouraging that, after about 23 years in my case of calling bullshit on the official story, people like Curt Weldon (and Tucker) are showing up in this way. Too many people are sheep, unfortunately, and too afraid to stray from the flock until someone finally says what so many actually think privately, that the emperor has no clothes. I'm hoping the Weldon-Tucker interview can serve as a rallying cry for others to join the demand for a real investigation, and let the chips fall where they may.
Yes. I see it the same way. Let's see what happens. No doubt other big influencers watched the episode. Things could start to snowball. I think we can do our part and try to contextualize this conversation in a way that opens a few more sets of eyes.
Beyond Treason, we need bright sunshine and dark prison cells. Anybody with any logic could see the towers were imploded with controlled demolition. NIST & 9-11 commission were simply coverup bodies.
As a member of the Architects and Engenders for 9/11 Truth !!! google corrected my words and changed Engineers to "Engenders" - the insanity is still on since 9/11 2001, obviously planned decades in advance.
Thanks for this post Madhava. For many people 9/11 was a wake-up call. But for some of my friends that I considered intellegent and distrusting of government it took them a long time, even a decade to dismiss the pancake theory. So I find it hopeful that now Calling Out Bravo 7 can be watched on you tube. It is hard for the average person to imagine this level of evil. And it is hard for people to imagine the level of evil regarding the jabs. I pray now the veil is being lifted and people can see the Deep State has been in operation for a long time and the USA is not what it pretends to be. All decent ordinary people need to join together. Our interests, our well being, our survival are shared.
As soon as I watched the Tucker Carlson interview with Curt Weldon, my next thoughts were….wonder if Madava has listened to this interview and what is he thinking? I appreciate this measured and thoughtful response!
Thank you for this lovely gift, all wrapped up tidily with a red bow! I never questioned the story of 9/11 until covid hit and then it was suddenly easy to see through. What I did question way back then and IMMEDIATELY was the response. I had a visceral disgust to all of the fear porn of the time. Your piece gave me another reason to look back at that time and realize that I must thank both my parents for ensuring I was not a fearful child, both in their own unique way. That too is a gift. And it stood me in good stead all through my adult life and especially in covidian times. Looking back and seeing the political shifts over my lifetime while I have managed to mostly stay grounded is helpful. I have a special affinity for people who see the bigger connections, are curious and open minded, can remember their previous thought processes and reevaluate and correct as needed. Bonus points to people like you who write about all this with such conviction and courage.
Thank you for the kind words. As I have said before, courage isn't necessary when there is nothing to fear and when the price of doing nothing is so big.
Thank you for this superb piece. The horror of 9/11 gets lost in the numbness of the official narrative. You cut through the fog with your clarity. ‘Thank you NIST for showing us that you are wrong!’ Yes! One of many crystalizing points that help me see where I am numb. Thanks for the introduction to Weldon. It’s nice to know of the high level truth warriors. Many thanks for this one. So much great stuff. I am thankful for you and your brilliance.
The pendulum is swinging. The masses are stretching and picking the eye boogers off. (I count myself as one of the 'masses' who is grateful for folks spouting some clarity.) Thank you, Madhava, for your balanced and thoughtful pace.
I don't know. Is this cynical? I've reached the point where I just admit they got away with it. Nothing will ever be done to punish the perpetrators. We know who they are. They know we know. And they know they got away with it. They're so confident they got away with it that they allow their former (?) employee Tucker Carlson to cast aspersions on the official story. This creates the illusion that there are some pundits still doing their job, now that Noam Chomsky is clinically out of his mind. Weldon could have stood his ground 24 years ago. There are a few examples of people like him who could have been known a hero but slid back into mediocrity. now making a grasp at being noble. he had his chance. he blew it. the crime was accomplished pretty much without a hitch, except for the obvious blunders only a few want to grasp.
Eight years ago you couldn't bring up 9/11 in polite circles, now it's all over the place. I can't open my social media feed without being inundated with 9/11 Truth posts.
Trust in MSM is plummeting, there is widespread disgust around AIPAC and our policy in the Middle East. Tucker Carlson is a bigger influencer than any legacy media platform and he brought on someone who can name names. We are supposed to have a Presidential Task Force looking at this. Yes, it will be a limited hangout but the important part of that is that the public will know that it won't be the whole story.
There are a lot of people who could have stood their ground back then, but at least Weldon didn't go away. I think he finally came around when his instincts as a firefighter were confirmed by the article by Raul Angulo. That was the last straw for him and we are lucky that Tucker trusts him enough to platform his ideas. Moreover, Tucker indicated that he has some interest in doing a series on this.
Who knows what is happening behind the scenes? Would it be so surprising if Tucker and Trump discuss this off line? Could Weldon be correct in saying that the narrative is not created by the figure heads but the staffers who are, for all intents and purposes, permanent?
Who knows, maybe DJT will consider this. I don't think he is a brilliant guy but I do think that he wants to be popular and he is brilliant at making that happen. Once he senses the public sees 9/11 differently he may find it in his interest to say some bold things about controlled demolition, just to see how it lands. That's how he operates. He found out pretty quickly that boasting about Operation Warp Speed was a mistake among his base.
Whether or not that will change minds is left to be seen. I regard things differently. The fact that these things are happening are a sign that the public is waking up. Personally, I would rather be overly optimistic and take what comes without any fear of being accused of naiveté.
My question to you would be, what would you like to see happen around this? And what would be some signs that would indicate that we are headed in a better direction?
I'm OK with what is happening now. A small percent of the population will continue to understand what happened that day, and the aftermath. The global fascist movement, or what our friend Foster calls the GDA, the global domination agenda, will continue to steamroll all over the world. But there will be groups of people who get the message that there is no hope for a political solution to their domination. We can still set out and find our own sane asylums. History is full of stories of people escaping tyranny. This is not unusual. Tyranny, deception, not-truth, are the hallmarks of this realm in this Kali yuga. The first noble truth. 9/11 is an awakening to liberate ourselves, not to change the basic operating system of this realm.
The false narrative around 9/11 is coming down. Not as fast as controlled demolition, but it simply cannot stand the test of time and attack from independent media.
As I have mentioned before Pluto is in Aquarius. The last time that happened was at the end of the 18th century which saw the rebirth of democracy and the inception of vaccines. Both of these concepts are up for reevaluation right now. Is it just a coincidence? Is there a celestial clock whose alarm has gone off? Are we going to wake up or hit the snooze button for another 240 years?
In the end (if there is such a thing) it doesn't matter. And, I would like to see it happen now. The encouraging thing is that we don't have to be disappointed if a congressional hearing on 9/11 is a limited hangout. The important thing is the attitude the public has about this. That's something we are a part of.
Perhaps this would be a good moment in time to tell a personal story about this?
i just noticed that Tucker Carlson interviewed George Friedman not long after he had Weldon on. Who is George Friedman? Founder and chairman of Stratfor. Stratfor is a private intelligence agency that my brother in law said advised him that 9/11 was going to happen. I wonder what these guys say to each other when they're not on camera....
Yes, it's cynical, overly so in my opinion. In terms of grasping at nobility, Weldon doesn't seem to me to be like Chris Cuomo on Covid, for instance. He seems genuinely fired up and ready to keep rolling on this, and I'm ready to believe him. And of course it's tempting to criticize people who could have stood their ground but didn't, but who knows what the dangers are for dissidents, and who knows if we would have the needed courage when tested? (And he actually did speak out, that's why the FBI showed up at his daughter's door.) I think his "chance" is by no means over, and I'm ready to thank him for his service now and going forward.
I agree. Tucker spent years lambasting 9/11 truth (which he apologizes for) but now that it’s a relatively safe time to broach the subject he does so, under the guise of his new ‘alternative to the mainstream’ platform. His father was CIA, for Pete’s sake. This guy has been groomed in the art of deception since birth. I’m not buying his act.
Bull it's safe, he's the first major media personality to expose it that I've seen. That's very brave and it does put his life at risk. You sound like a typical CIA sockpuppet doing their usual smear jobs on their opposition.
It is safe because nothing is going to come of this. Tucker gets to continue developing this new reputation as an opposition to the mainstream, a very calculated move given that trust in US institutions is plummeting across the nation. The Israel lobby owns Trump to the tune of $250 mil. He isn’t going to let a real investigation expose his masters.
It weren't Israel that did 9/11, only the central bank mafia have that kind of power. Israel is a sideshow.
As Madhava correctly stated, once you see the truth about 9/11 you will never trust them again, add that to those awakened by the Covid Plandemic and other similar events, a point is reached where there is common knowledge, at which time the collapse of the establishment is inevitable. When nobody believes in it anymore, it will fall. So don't say nothing will change, it helps to destroy the base upon which the Establishment stands. It may not be the be all and end all, but it is a whole lot.
Nonsense, they had their Youtube ban an interview with Richard Gage on the popular podcast Valuetainment.
Another guy who builds himself up by putting good people down. We need all the friends we can get, even if they are flawed. After all it was very corrupt insiders Yeltsin and Gorbachev who brought down the Soviet Union. Save your criticism for the myriads of evil people, 100% corrupt, who are helping to drive us into impoverishment & subjugation or worse.
I have reached out but heard nothing back as yet...My take on him is that he is not as far into the rabbit hole or into at all....even though he has looked at things ....but likely not seen...connected the dots..
sure, could be more than one. i also recall that those flights were not regularly scheduled flights. there are many gaping holes in the official story... and something else you don't hear much of is that Dov Zakheim, who was responsible for the missing trillions, before he was the comptroller of the pentagon he worked for a company that manufactured remote control systems for aircraft....
Curious. The planes that were involved all had flight termination systems designed to take over control of plane from ground based operator...all comms are stopped as well...the crew would lose all ability to navigate or communicate...no box cutters....
when i first began to study 9/11, in 2003, I would scoff at the 'no planes' idea. i thought it was introduced to divide the 9/11 Truth Movement. But now it appears at least partially correct. it seems pretty clear, due to errors they made, that the video we all saw, again and again and again, of a "plane" hitting the second tower was a construction. those explosions we were led to believe came from planes were actually from explosives detonated from within the building. those floors where the explosions happened were leased to Paul Bremer.....
Remember Peter Jennings telling us as they show "video" of plane fly into one side and as Peter says there it is coming out the other side and for an instant you see the perfect outline of the nose of a boeing....patently impossible...how far down the rabbit hole are you...lol....Did you know Oklahoma bombing was also a building that was wired for demolition...witnesses who were in the building describe explosions and prior to the street bomb going off...The lies are seemingly endless
Tucker Carlson recently had ex-Congressman Curt Weldon on his podcast, a man who openly admits in the first three minutes that he pushed Fusion Centers as a reaction to the 1993 FBI-Terrorist “bombing” of World Trade Center One.
Curt Weldon Cites as Mentors DONALD RUMSFELD GHW BUSH
Tucker Carlson recently had ex-Congressman Curt Weldon on his podcast, a man who openly admits in the first three minutes that he pushed Fusion Centers as a reaction to the 1993 FBI-Terrorist “bombing” of World Trade Center One.
Curt Weldon openly admits in the first few minutes of conversation that he created the Gilmore Committee to establish Fusion Centers after WTC 1993. Weldon also cites Donald Rumsfeld, a key RAND Corporation architect of the “Global War On Terror”, as a mentor and personal reference.
Weldon offers up George H. W. Bush as well as another personal character reference, another key “Global War on Terror” architect.
Fusion Centers have been established in every State in the United States now and in at least thirty-five major metro areas since 9/11.
Fusion Centers were a euphemism for the Phoenix Program torture centers in Vietnam.
CIA “Advisors” waterboarding a Viet Cong prisoner in the Phoenix Program.
Phoenix Program veterans like then-FBI Director Robert Mueller and ex-CIA Director William Colby established provincial “fusion centers” to torture suspected Viet Cong sympathizers.
Two RAND Corporation analysts exposed the Phoenix Program torture centers in Vietnam with the Pentagon Papers - Daniel Ellsberg and Anthony Russo.
Another RAND Corporation analyst, Bruce Hoffman, recommended them for the United States, citing the need for a domestic terrorist incident like the bombing of WTC Building One to get Americans to accept this egregious encroachment of their freedom.
The idea was simple. Repurpose all the RAND whitepapers written about subduing the Viet Cong and resell those to the US government by substituting domestic terrorism in the United States for the Viet Cong.
Curt Weldon was the key cog in that process, pushing the Vietnam-era signals intercept programs like Starlight and Spires at INSCOM at Ft. Belvoir. Weldon pushed the Gilmore Commission which carried the Fusion Center concept forward toward possible legistlative approval.
Robert Mueller of the FBI had operatives stage a Live Exercise of the WTC bombing in 1993 that turned out to use real explosives to everyone’s surprise, and then, outraged Congressman Curt Weldon was then cued to come forward and say a “Fusion Center” would have prevented the attack.
Weldon continued to push the Fusion Center concept until 9/11, when it was finally accepted along with the Department of Homeland Security.
The RAND Corporation’s Bruce Hoffman immediately pounced on the Intelligence Committee in Congress after 9/11 to institute the Department of Homeland Security along with Fusion Centers in every State.
Curt Weldon, along with Tucker Carlson, were key cheerleaders for both the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars, and now they want to claim hero status for being truth crusaders on the topic of 9/11 when they both pushed the terrorism wheelbarrow at the time.
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Nice plug for George Webb. I get it, you like him, but building him up by doing a smearjob on some really good people in the opposition is a low blow. You should be ashamed of yourself. Save your hostility for the myriads of evil people openly and obviously trying to harm us.
Thank you so much for writing this splendid article, Dr. Setty.
Its analysis of the Curt Weldon interview gives us unprecedented insight into how the 9/11 media lie has set the stage for the creation of enduring international conflict.
I worked for about 12 years with Dr. David Ray Griffin on his dozen books exposing 9/11, and during that time we co-founded the international 23-member 9/11 Consensus Panel, which published its 7-year investigation in 2018 as 51 consensus points in the book "9/11 Unmasked."
These points are freely available online, and in book format on Amazon.
As you suggest, the most important issue at stake here is that we could be living in a peaceful world in which we all view one another as planetary human beings and not through the prism of malignant, unscrupulous lies.
Substack articles such as yours, and free speech social media platforms such as Twitter/X, are leading us towards the recognition of our common humanity.
Perhaps it is obvious and that's why Madhava neglected to say it in big bold letters -- I'll do so here. THE FACT THAT THE TOWERS WERE BROUGHT DOWN WITH CONTROLLED DEMOLITION MEANS THAT PEOPLE WITH INSIDER ACCESS TO THE BUILDINGS WERE CAREFULLY PLANTING EXPLOSIVES MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
Yup. I probably should have mentioned this for clarity, as well as the subsequent quandary NIST and the 9/11 Commission would have been forced to address: Even if Al Qaeda somehow got access to all three of the buildings, why then would they fly suicide missions into the TT? That is the smoking gun. Terrorists would need planes or explosives. Only conspirators with access to the buildings and control over the media would need both.
(Obviously planes themselves would not have been enough either. That's beside the point)
yes. when i first looked at this, in 03. i thought, 'ok, sure does look like a controlled demolition. but how could they get in the building?" then i learned about Marvin Bush and Wirt Walker. people who believe the official story never heard of those guys. once they do it becomes very hard to defend the official story.
Dustification…Directed Energy Technology. Check out Dr Judy Wood’s book “Where Did the Towers Go” or watch her lecture in this interview.
https://open.substack.com/pub/unbekoming/p/dustification?r=d6rzy&utm_medium=ios
What a crackpot load of gibberish, a word salad full of lots of wild claims, next to no scientific data or analysis. And full of lies. There was massive amounts of steel from the two buildings, you can see the massive steel girders blown outwards hundreds of feet as well as 200k tons of steel trucked out from the site, in a big rush to send it to China for recycling. Steel turned to dust is garbage.
Yep, the NATO/USSA military is fighting their wet dream, greatest-fantasy-ever war with Russia, and their dreams are being dashed because they can't protect Ukraine's airspace. Why don't they have "Directed Energy" weapons that are 1/1000th the power that Judy Woods proclaims that could easily knock out EVERY Russian fighter, missile, drone & helicopter from the Ukraine skies as soon as they dared to enter Ukraine airspace? Where are they, huh?
Fascinating interview with Tucker Carlson.
I will NEVER trust the government or legacy media again!
Great summation, Madhava. I am envisioning this as a turning point of sorts. I disagree that it doesn't matter anymore who did it, or that it's now relatively safe to talk about now. It's still a desperately defended narrative and has been taboo in the relative "mainstream" conversation until now. 9/11 is the lynchpin of so much treasonous deception, and so of course the official bullshit narrative will be defended with everything the Deep State can muster, but their story will eventually fall like the house of cards it is, and it's so encouraging that, after about 23 years in my case of calling bullshit on the official story, people like Curt Weldon (and Tucker) are showing up in this way. Too many people are sheep, unfortunately, and too afraid to stray from the flock until someone finally says what so many actually think privately, that the emperor has no clothes. I'm hoping the Weldon-Tucker interview can serve as a rallying cry for others to join the demand for a real investigation, and let the chips fall where they may.
Yes. I see it the same way. Let's see what happens. No doubt other big influencers watched the episode. Things could start to snowball. I think we can do our part and try to contextualize this conversation in a way that opens a few more sets of eyes.
Beyond Treason, we need bright sunshine and dark prison cells. Anybody with any logic could see the towers were imploded with controlled demolition. NIST & 9-11 commission were simply coverup bodies.
#fightpfraud #fightpfake #911truth
Chronic disease for the pharma complex and chronic conflict for the military industrial complex. Exactly Madhava.
As a member of the Architects and Engenders for 9/11 Truth !!! google corrected my words and changed Engineers to "Engenders" - the insanity is still on since 9/11 2001, obviously planned decades in advance.
Thanks for this post Madhava. For many people 9/11 was a wake-up call. But for some of my friends that I considered intellegent and distrusting of government it took them a long time, even a decade to dismiss the pancake theory. So I find it hopeful that now Calling Out Bravo 7 can be watched on you tube. It is hard for the average person to imagine this level of evil. And it is hard for people to imagine the level of evil regarding the jabs. I pray now the veil is being lifted and people can see the Deep State has been in operation for a long time and the USA is not what it pretends to be. All decent ordinary people need to join together. Our interests, our well being, our survival are shared.
As soon as I watched the Tucker Carlson interview with Curt Weldon, my next thoughts were….wonder if Madava has listened to this interview and what is he thinking? I appreciate this measured and thoughtful response!
Thank you for this lovely gift, all wrapped up tidily with a red bow! I never questioned the story of 9/11 until covid hit and then it was suddenly easy to see through. What I did question way back then and IMMEDIATELY was the response. I had a visceral disgust to all of the fear porn of the time. Your piece gave me another reason to look back at that time and realize that I must thank both my parents for ensuring I was not a fearful child, both in their own unique way. That too is a gift. And it stood me in good stead all through my adult life and especially in covidian times. Looking back and seeing the political shifts over my lifetime while I have managed to mostly stay grounded is helpful. I have a special affinity for people who see the bigger connections, are curious and open minded, can remember their previous thought processes and reevaluate and correct as needed. Bonus points to people like you who write about all this with such conviction and courage.
Thank you for the kind words. As I have said before, courage isn't necessary when there is nothing to fear and when the price of doing nothing is so big.
Thank you for this superb piece. The horror of 9/11 gets lost in the numbness of the official narrative. You cut through the fog with your clarity. ‘Thank you NIST for showing us that you are wrong!’ Yes! One of many crystalizing points that help me see where I am numb. Thanks for the introduction to Weldon. It’s nice to know of the high level truth warriors. Many thanks for this one. So much great stuff. I am thankful for you and your brilliance.
The pendulum is swinging. The masses are stretching and picking the eye boogers off. (I count myself as one of the 'masses' who is grateful for folks spouting some clarity.) Thank you, Madhava, for your balanced and thoughtful pace.
Great interview. Homeboy gets PISSED! Not a lot of people show their passion these days.
I don't know. Is this cynical? I've reached the point where I just admit they got away with it. Nothing will ever be done to punish the perpetrators. We know who they are. They know we know. And they know they got away with it. They're so confident they got away with it that they allow their former (?) employee Tucker Carlson to cast aspersions on the official story. This creates the illusion that there are some pundits still doing their job, now that Noam Chomsky is clinically out of his mind. Weldon could have stood his ground 24 years ago. There are a few examples of people like him who could have been known a hero but slid back into mediocrity. now making a grasp at being noble. he had his chance. he blew it. the crime was accomplished pretty much without a hitch, except for the obvious blunders only a few want to grasp.
Sure they got away with "it", but at what cost?
Eight years ago you couldn't bring up 9/11 in polite circles, now it's all over the place. I can't open my social media feed without being inundated with 9/11 Truth posts.
Trust in MSM is plummeting, there is widespread disgust around AIPAC and our policy in the Middle East. Tucker Carlson is a bigger influencer than any legacy media platform and he brought on someone who can name names. We are supposed to have a Presidential Task Force looking at this. Yes, it will be a limited hangout but the important part of that is that the public will know that it won't be the whole story.
There are a lot of people who could have stood their ground back then, but at least Weldon didn't go away. I think he finally came around when his instincts as a firefighter were confirmed by the article by Raul Angulo. That was the last straw for him and we are lucky that Tucker trusts him enough to platform his ideas. Moreover, Tucker indicated that he has some interest in doing a series on this.
Who knows what is happening behind the scenes? Would it be so surprising if Tucker and Trump discuss this off line? Could Weldon be correct in saying that the narrative is not created by the figure heads but the staffers who are, for all intents and purposes, permanent?
Who knows, maybe DJT will consider this. I don't think he is a brilliant guy but I do think that he wants to be popular and he is brilliant at making that happen. Once he senses the public sees 9/11 differently he may find it in his interest to say some bold things about controlled demolition, just to see how it lands. That's how he operates. He found out pretty quickly that boasting about Operation Warp Speed was a mistake among his base.
Whether or not that will change minds is left to be seen. I regard things differently. The fact that these things are happening are a sign that the public is waking up. Personally, I would rather be overly optimistic and take what comes without any fear of being accused of naiveté.
My question to you would be, what would you like to see happen around this? And what would be some signs that would indicate that we are headed in a better direction?
I'm OK with what is happening now. A small percent of the population will continue to understand what happened that day, and the aftermath. The global fascist movement, or what our friend Foster calls the GDA, the global domination agenda, will continue to steamroll all over the world. But there will be groups of people who get the message that there is no hope for a political solution to their domination. We can still set out and find our own sane asylums. History is full of stories of people escaping tyranny. This is not unusual. Tyranny, deception, not-truth, are the hallmarks of this realm in this Kali yuga. The first noble truth. 9/11 is an awakening to liberate ourselves, not to change the basic operating system of this realm.
Agree. And, if a substantial portion of the world liberates themselves, could the "operating system of this realm" continue to "operate"?
Deception and tyranny may be the hallmarks of this realm right now, but all yugas come to an end. Let's not forget the other noble truths.
What might the last gasps of the Kali Yuga look like? If I were to imagine the beginning of the end, it would look something like today.
OK so it is getting interesting. maybe. i still cannot fathom how this has been obscure for so long. https://thehill.com/homenews/5259111-senator-ron-johnson-9-11-hearings/
The false narrative around 9/11 is coming down. Not as fast as controlled demolition, but it simply cannot stand the test of time and attack from independent media.
As I have mentioned before Pluto is in Aquarius. The last time that happened was at the end of the 18th century which saw the rebirth of democracy and the inception of vaccines. Both of these concepts are up for reevaluation right now. Is it just a coincidence? Is there a celestial clock whose alarm has gone off? Are we going to wake up or hit the snooze button for another 240 years?
In the end (if there is such a thing) it doesn't matter. And, I would like to see it happen now. The encouraging thing is that we don't have to be disappointed if a congressional hearing on 9/11 is a limited hangout. The important thing is the attitude the public has about this. That's something we are a part of.
Perhaps this would be a good moment in time to tell a personal story about this?
i just noticed that Tucker Carlson interviewed George Friedman not long after he had Weldon on. Who is George Friedman? Founder and chairman of Stratfor. Stratfor is a private intelligence agency that my brother in law said advised him that 9/11 was going to happen. I wonder what these guys say to each other when they're not on camera....
Yes, it's cynical, overly so in my opinion. In terms of grasping at nobility, Weldon doesn't seem to me to be like Chris Cuomo on Covid, for instance. He seems genuinely fired up and ready to keep rolling on this, and I'm ready to believe him. And of course it's tempting to criticize people who could have stood their ground but didn't, but who knows what the dangers are for dissidents, and who knows if we would have the needed courage when tested? (And he actually did speak out, that's why the FBI showed up at his daughter's door.) I think his "chance" is by no means over, and I'm ready to thank him for his service now and going forward.
I agree. Tucker spent years lambasting 9/11 truth (which he apologizes for) but now that it’s a relatively safe time to broach the subject he does so, under the guise of his new ‘alternative to the mainstream’ platform. His father was CIA, for Pete’s sake. This guy has been groomed in the art of deception since birth. I’m not buying his act.
Bull it's safe, he's the first major media personality to expose it that I've seen. That's very brave and it does put his life at risk. You sound like a typical CIA sockpuppet doing their usual smear jobs on their opposition.
It is safe because nothing is going to come of this. Tucker gets to continue developing this new reputation as an opposition to the mainstream, a very calculated move given that trust in US institutions is plummeting across the nation. The Israel lobby owns Trump to the tune of $250 mil. He isn’t going to let a real investigation expose his masters.
It weren't Israel that did 9/11, only the central bank mafia have that kind of power. Israel is a sideshow.
As Madhava correctly stated, once you see the truth about 9/11 you will never trust them again, add that to those awakened by the Covid Plandemic and other similar events, a point is reached where there is common knowledge, at which time the collapse of the establishment is inevitable. When nobody believes in it anymore, it will fall. So don't say nothing will change, it helps to destroy the base upon which the Establishment stands. It may not be the be all and end all, but it is a whole lot.
Nonsense, they had their Youtube ban an interview with Richard Gage on the popular podcast Valuetainment.
Another guy who builds himself up by putting good people down. We need all the friends we can get, even if they are flawed. After all it was very corrupt insiders Yeltsin and Gorbachev who brought down the Soviet Union. Save your criticism for the myriads of evil people, 100% corrupt, who are helping to drive us into impoverishment & subjugation or worse.
bottom line here, when can we expect to see any politician held accountable for their part in the cover-up if not complicit in the crime itself?
I would like to see more discussion about where the planes really went...
I would love if you could put me in touch with the guy who might know...
I have reached out but heard nothing back as yet...My take on him is that he is not as far into the rabbit hole or into at all....even though he has looked at things ....but likely not seen...connected the dots..
i don't remember where i heard this. but Stewart Air Field near West point.
My understanding is that it was Westover AB in Chicopee MA.
sure, could be more than one. i also recall that those flights were not regularly scheduled flights. there are many gaping holes in the official story... and something else you don't hear much of is that Dov Zakheim, who was responsible for the missing trillions, before he was the comptroller of the pentagon he worked for a company that manufactured remote control systems for aircraft....
Curious. The planes that were involved all had flight termination systems designed to take over control of plane from ground based operator...all comms are stopped as well...the crew would lose all ability to navigate or communicate...no box cutters....
when i first began to study 9/11, in 2003, I would scoff at the 'no planes' idea. i thought it was introduced to divide the 9/11 Truth Movement. But now it appears at least partially correct. it seems pretty clear, due to errors they made, that the video we all saw, again and again and again, of a "plane" hitting the second tower was a construction. those explosions we were led to believe came from planes were actually from explosives detonated from within the building. those floors where the explosions happened were leased to Paul Bremer.....
Remember Peter Jennings telling us as they show "video" of plane fly into one side and as Peter says there it is coming out the other side and for an instant you see the perfect outline of the nose of a boeing....patently impossible...how far down the rabbit hole are you...lol....Did you know Oklahoma bombing was also a building that was wired for demolition...witnesses who were in the building describe explosions and prior to the street bomb going off...The lies are seemingly endless
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Tucker Carlson recently had ex-Congressman Curt Weldon on his podcast, a man who openly admits in the first three minutes that he pushed Fusion Centers as a reaction to the 1993 FBI-Terrorist “bombing” of World Trade Center One.
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Tucker Carlson recently had ex-Congressman Curt Weldon on his podcast, a man who openly admits in the first three minutes that he pushed Fusion Centers as a reaction to the 1993 FBI-Terrorist “bombing” of World Trade Center One.
Curt Weldon openly admits in the first few minutes of conversation that he created the Gilmore Committee to establish Fusion Centers after WTC 1993. Weldon also cites Donald Rumsfeld, a key RAND Corporation architect of the “Global War On Terror”, as a mentor and personal reference.
Weldon offers up George H. W. Bush as well as another personal character reference, another key “Global War on Terror” architect.
Fusion Centers have been established in every State in the United States now and in at least thirty-five major metro areas since 9/11.
Fusion Centers were a euphemism for the Phoenix Program torture centers in Vietnam.
CIA “Advisors” waterboarding a Viet Cong prisoner in the Phoenix Program.
Phoenix Program veterans like then-FBI Director Robert Mueller and ex-CIA Director William Colby established provincial “fusion centers” to torture suspected Viet Cong sympathizers.
Two RAND Corporation analysts exposed the Phoenix Program torture centers in Vietnam with the Pentagon Papers - Daniel Ellsberg and Anthony Russo.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/secret-origins-cias-torture-program-and-forgotten-man-who-tried-expose-it/
Another RAND Corporation analyst, Bruce Hoffman, recommended them for the United States, citing the need for a domestic terrorist incident like the bombing of WTC Building One to get Americans to accept this egregious encroachment of their freedom.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/papers/P7834.html
The idea was simple. Repurpose all the RAND whitepapers written about subduing the Viet Cong and resell those to the US government by substituting domestic terrorism in the United States for the Viet Cong.
Curt Weldon was the key cog in that process, pushing the Vietnam-era signals intercept programs like Starlight and Spires at INSCOM at Ft. Belvoir. Weldon pushed the Gilmore Commission which carried the Fusion Center concept forward toward possible legistlative approval.
Robert Mueller of the FBI had operatives stage a Live Exercise of the WTC bombing in 1993 that turned out to use real explosives to everyone’s surprise, and then, outraged Congressman Curt Weldon was then cued to come forward and say a “Fusion Center” would have prevented the attack.
Weldon continued to push the Fusion Center concept until 9/11, when it was finally accepted along with the Department of Homeland Security.
https://curtweldon.net/kurt-weldon-biography-timeline/
The RAND Corporation’s Bruce Hoffman immediately pounced on the Intelligence Committee in Congress after 9/11 to institute the Department of Homeland Security along with Fusion Centers in every State.
Curt Weldon, along with Tucker Carlson, were key cheerleaders for both the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars, and now they want to claim hero status for being truth crusaders on the topic of 9/11 when they both pushed the terrorism wheelbarrow at the time.
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Nice plug for George Webb. I get it, you like him, but building him up by doing a smearjob on some really good people in the opposition is a low blow. You should be ashamed of yourself. Save your hostility for the myriads of evil people openly and obviously trying to harm us.