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If you listened to Chris Martenson's ballistic report analysis, then you need to also listen to Mike Adams', who looked at Martenson's in more detail after being asked to do so.

https://www.brighteon.com/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09

According to his analysis, there would be 3 shooters, plus the secret service team, plus of course the countersniper.

What we know from both analyses: Shots 1-2-3 came from about 450 feet away, as did shots 4-5. However, 1-2-3 were much more muffled, which led Martenson to deduce that they were shot from inside a building. 4-5 were also pegged at 450 feet, but much clearer. For some reason, Adams believes 1-2-3 came from the rooftop and 4-5 from inside the building where the secret service would have been hiding (he doesn't take the muffled sounds into account). I would go with the reverse - 1-2-3 from the SS team inside, 4-5 from the rooftop shooter, whether or not it was Crooks.

Shot 6 was medium range, about 700 feet, and shot 7 long range, approximately 1000-1400 feet, with both of them far beyond the rooftop, and possibly coming from another angle.

Gene has spent hours, alone and with the help of others, analyzing all the details and going down the rabbit hole. There is most definitely another highly suspect individual who would qualify as a 2nd shooter, Maxwell Yearick, who was arrested at an anti-Trump rally in 2016 for injuring a police officer so badly he did 6 months' jail time. He could well be the rooftop guy as he shares critical features with him if you look at the picture of the man on the roof after he was shot and taken down.

The two pictures you shared of the supposed Crooks (at least the one where his hair is very long and thick) I don't think are Crooks, but instead the guy who came out on video to say "you've got the wrong guy".

There's still a lot of info to uncover, but it will take citizen investigators to get to the bottom of it. Certainly not the FBI.

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Yes. The answers will most definitely not come from the top down. I agree that we are only scratching the surface. I do think it is unassailable that there were bullets fired at the stage from more than one weapon and that whoever was atop the roof in plain sight was a distraction from whomever were planning on taking the kill shots.

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Way to go Sandra and Gene! We of course need more analysis and I think it will be coming shortly.

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Madhava, I am not sure this was an actual assasination attempt. I am not sure Trump was actually hit in the ear by a bullet. I have saved on my computer https://x.com/jorymicah/status/1813926062763696191 and https://old.bitchute.com/video/AVkZbQMrZ5iK/ and Dr Rima E Liebow substack. My thought on what might be the motive for such a staged event, I think Trump camp is not concerned about beating Biden or Harris or whoever the Dems pick. But he may have wanted to move people who are unsure, Kennedy or Trump, to Trump camp. "see deep state is really trying to kill Trump" I am dissappointed that so many in the freedom/truth community are now rallying behind Trump, forgetting that he did the warp speed vaccines, locked down and social distance in 2020, that he played into hands of big pharma. Yes it seems certain innocent people killed and injured. psyops seems not to be bothered by collateral damage. I am glad you are not presenting this and making Trump a hero. Seems certain more than one shooter involved. I am not convinced the plan was to kill Trump. Hard to believe CIA/FBI or whoever with such power would miss with so many shoots fired. Thanks for listening.

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I agree that it's impossible to be certain of anything. But of the things I am most confident, real bullets were used, human beings were killed and injured. That being said, I find it hard to believe that such an incident, involving real harm to innocent people, would be staged in order to earn Trump sympathy/heroic votes. It seemed that Trump's chances were pretty good that he was going to win in a general election even before the debate last month.

I also would guess that if Trump was assassinated this country would be very close to coming apart. That, in fact, would play right into the hands of whatever interests that would like to see some kind of martial law be imposed.

That said, I too am disappointed to see those in the freedom/truth community forget that he took credit for Operation warp speed and that he never pardoned Assange or Snowden. If he truly was interested in draining the swamp that should have been an easy first step.

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Since it will likely be impossible to have a thorough 'independent' investigation outside of US Government/FBI/CIA/etc. we'll likely never know the truth.

*Did Crooks gun/rifle actually discharge?

*Were any bullets recovered and analyzed?

I like that all the assassin's names (Thomas Matthew Crooks, James Earl Ray, Lee Harvey Oswald and John Wilkes Booth) were mentioned.

Were they also not previously mentioned (without thorough unbiased investigation) in prior events that were extremely controversial.

As we've learned (and continue to learn over and over again), politics is a messy business.

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seriously, stop watching CNN and The View. This wasn't faked. UMMM, TWO people were actually killed were they not? Are you really saying Trump had 2 people purposely killed to fake an assassination attempt?

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👏👏👏👏👏👏

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I agree. Thank you for expressing my thoughts. I have been pondering why is everyone seems to be taking this at face value, repeating the narrative that it was ‘an assassination attempt’. How real is reality TV?

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Thanks, Madhava! You've dug up some details I hadn't heard before and your speculation is as plausible as any I've heard. Here's another take I've learned from - Ray McGovern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOyKXbhzU-8

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So this is easy. Claim of 8 shots recorded on audio. How many shell casings were found at Crooks scene? He didn’t pick them up.

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well, it's not that easy if you believe like I do that this was a deep state/dem govt hit job. All the casings and slugs were definitely picked up and conveniently dropped into some random pond hundreds of miles away no doubt.

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if they do not have the shell casings then it will prove to me that it was an attempt on Trumps life by the deep state.

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If producing shell casings is all that is required to dismiss a deep state conspiracy my guess is that shell casings will be "found" at the required locations and official forensics analyses will "prove" whatever story is required.

The authorities/conspirators cannot hide independent audio and video recordings that corroborate each other from different vantage points.

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Option B......it is the only plausible thing happening!

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All 3 options, Trump false flag, failed deep state attempt and loner meets SS incompetence, are still possible and all have major holes. Cui bono? has the best track record and it will give very different answers in the two cases where it's applicable.

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What is the major hole in the failed deep state attempt hypothesis in your opinion?

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They wouldn't have missed.

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Agreed. They don't typically mess up. But they aren't infallible. WTC 7 was an enormous blunder on their part.

If we accept that Trump was hit in the ear by a bullet we can conclude that they missed but not by much.

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Possible, but if there was a backup/second shooter, it would be even more unlikely.

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More unlikely yes. But how much more unlikely? There weren't a lot of places to hide shooters in the perimeter or outside of it. From the audio and video the second shot would have to have been taken less than a second after the first shot missed its mark.

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I'm glad you're on the case, Madhava, we're in on the ground floor of the spawning of another batch of conspiracy theories/cover stories. The FBI of course has hermetically sealed the investigation, probably storing the collected evidence on the next shelf down from all the confiscated videos of the Pentagon on 9/11, but there are crucial differences. For one thing, they don't have nearly the same control of the narrative, too many independent sources of information, video, and so on, as well as independent media outlets. I just watched the audio analysis last night, extremely persuasive as to at least two different weapons. As Biden would say, that's number one. Number two, there is nowhere near a consensus on the willingness to cover this up. At least, I think there are enough interested/aggrieved parties in Congress to make sure this doesn't wait as long as 9/11 did for an investigation, and it's my assumption that at the very least, Trump supporters will not roll over so easily. Another difference is that nobody is coming forward officially with an approved "official narrative", probably because they haven't figured out one that makes even a little sense yet, so there are no heretics as yet either--nobody can be ridiculed or silenced for theorizing and researching further. I would imagine the Deep State is winging it on this and doesn't really have all their ducks in a row in terms of the coverup. They really expected Trump to be dead and for the RNC to nominate some neocon in his place, making their job a lot easier.

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I don't know, Jim. The way I see it killing Trump would likely lead to civil strife that would necessitate the imposition of more authoritarian measures and laws. Is there a better way to justify martial law in this country? I can't think of one. This is why I think this was an actual attempt on his life. It wasn't a political move. It was a power move.

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I absolutely think it was a real attempt to take him out, that's why I'm imagining that they are scrambling because all the bullets missed. One theory is that they would somehow blame it on Iran and have a false flag while they're at it. But at any event, they totally wanted him taken off the board, which means they are getting desperate.

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"The FBI of course has hermetically sealed the investigation, probably storing the collected evidence on the next shelf down from all the confiscated videos of the Pentagon on 9/11,":

or next to the JFK file, or the Operation Mockingbird file........................................or maybe it'll all get stored in another building somewhere that will need to 'mysteriously' burn to the ground so ALL (and the ONLY) the evidence gets sadly destroyed.

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It was a failed assassination attempt; thank God🦅

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It’s been a busy day:

This morning, I convinced people that they could save the natural planet by killing themselves with petroleum based mRNA injections.

This afternoon, I co-opted Liberals to support and finance the war machine aka The Military Industrial Complex.

My cocktail hour was interrupted by the failed assassination - aka Deep state fuck up.

But tomorrow I hope to make up for what has to be the biggest deep state fuck up in modern history by getting several enormous government contracts for building nuclear power plants.

I’m going to dog and pony the first round of the investor pitch that nuclear is a Tech Play.

You know … For The People

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Was this written by Evil Bill Gates???

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Well wadaya know!

"There was no second shooter shooting at the former president that day. All the rounds have been accounted for. We have zero reason to believe there was a second shooter,” Special Agent in Charge of FBI Pittsburgh Kevin Rojek said."

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Wow

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"Dr. Chris Martenson where he explains how a relatively simple analysis clearly indicates there were at least two separate weapons that were fired upon the stage"

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Chris Martenson claims that his analysis of the bullet audio suggests that two shots of the 2nd burst of fire were from a “second shooter/.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouUbMYb7Bc

I think Chris may be correct, but not in the way he thinks.

Local news reported that "County District Attorney Richard Goldinger said a Beaver County Emergency Services Unit officer fired a shot that "appeared to cause a reaction from Crooks" https://www.wtae.com/article/trump-rally-shooting-investigation-homeland-security-crooks/61629040

Those ESU officers were in the 2nd floor of the building behind Crooks. That explains shot #6 (of the 2nd burst of fire) from "the second shooter." https://www.eugyppius.com/p/cock-ups-conspiracies-and-the-failed?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=268621&post_id=146745801&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=105v9&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

So, ithere was a “2nd shooter,” but not in the water tower and not shooting at Trump. The "2nd Shooter" was the ESU officer who fired a shot at Crooks, not at Trump. The trajectory of the bullets shot from Crooks position match up with Trump and those wounded in the stands. https://arngrimr.substack.com/p/trump-shooting-update-no-second-shooter and https://arngrimr.substack.com/p/trump-assassination-attempt-separating

PERHAPS the ESU officer's shots wounded Crooks and he stopped firing (Although Dan Bongino was told that their shot missed Crooks). Possibly he then moved up and/or to his right, and became visible to the Secret Service sniper team #2, who then fired the final, fatal shot.

I've found that Dan Bongino ( https://rumble.com/c/Bongino ) has had the most informed commentary on this story. He has the perspective of being ex-Secret Service and he still has contacts within the Service. His reporting has consistently been about three days ahead of the news.

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Just occurred to me that the assassination attempt seems to be last week's news, the attention of the nation has passed on, now especially with Biden dropping out. Just another occurrence on the campaign trail, except for the usual suspects who always exercise critical thinking.

Seems like the nation is largely satisfied with the general outline of the story. Nothing to see here, move along. There doesn't appear to be any urgency for further answers, the FBI can take however long they want...

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Any 8th grader, probably any 3rd grader, given security options from which to choose in 2024, would have chosen more wisely. Remember, these SS do this for a living. Planned incompetence...give the look of it....the blame is diffused. Point fingers at any/every one involved so no one is held responsible. Need a competent citizen force to forensic investigate....oh wait a minute, that's the FBIs job. What did the SS tell local cops? You do this and we'll do this. I want to see that written plan/ that interview.

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Option c. Theater. Stage Hollywood production all. Crises actors. The court dramas being fake af. If you understand law. Showed what an actor he is.. Dc owns the us. Look up the word certificate your parents signed you into debt slavery. They threw it under a trust. We are all assets of that trust. And drumpf is just another actor distracting the pleb assets from this. Critical thought and intelligence is dead. For the record. JFK shooting was also a Hollywood production. Everyone on the grassy knoll was a crises actor. A wax dummy was shot. The guy with umbrella. The director. It’s all actors people. Breads and circuses

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The options I offered were two possible testimonials from Crooks. What would be his testimony if this was all staged?

"I was paid to show up at this rally with a gun to take part in a charade that would make the public think there was an attempt on Trump's life" ?

That's essentially what option B is. Crooks thought he was taking part in an op, whether it be an actually assassination plot or a faked one. He unwittingly played the part of the patsy that would take the fall.

If you maintain that this was supposed to be convincing theater, so convincing that Trump had to sustain an injury to reify the charade, then whoever hit his ear was not only a remarkable shot, he/she was also prescient, anticipating Trump's head turn at, or just after, the trigger was pulled.

If you think that was fake blood on his cheek you have to contend with the fact that real bullets injured innocent people.

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Been 2 weeks. Notice no scratch on his ear. Lmao. TOLD…. yOU….. SO……

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They are all actors you honestly believe a 5 foot ladder would be of enough height for that kid to climb the roof. What part of they were all acting CAnt you understand? “You’re watching a movie”. Wow the public is daft. You know the pictures at the movie theaters are fake right? This is the same EVERYONE was in on it. Blanks were fired. One of the crises actors behind cheryl on stage even screwed up his lines. When he said it was fireworks under the stage. Trump ducked the smeared theatrical paint on his face. Real blood drops especially on a thin membrane organ like the ear. The so called dude that died Corey c. He has a linked in page he’s no fire fighter. He works for a software company and he posted the next day. All these people are related in some form. They work for and with intel agencies and the military. You have not done your research and it’s clear you’re too emotional on this and lack critical thought.

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How are you certain of these things?

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Because I research. I look at family lines. I know people in DC and here things others are not privy to. Just bc you lack these qualities does not mean they are not present in others.

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If Trump had been in on some charade, he would have carefully stood very still, looking straight ahead, and not moved around casually, as he did. The shot was an inch away or less from taking his life. He wouldn't have turned his head and looked up.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13654995/Trumps-doctor-reveals-shocking-new-details-ex-presidents-bullet-wound-just-close-came-dying.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop

His doctor wrote that this bullet was within 0.25" of killing him. I very much doubt that the best sharp shooter could accomplish that on purpose to put on a show. I know Dr Rima Laibow thinks it was a show, but I think he is damn lucky his brains didn't end up in the lap of the mystery-woman filming it sitting behind him.

Mike Adams and Chris Martenson did some forensic analyses: https://x.com/chrismartenson/status/1814114895065141491

This is Mike's analysis:

https://www.brighteon.com/a2ec2cff-0d92-4870-9629-e1fa9eb3fb09

Interesting time we are living in. Blessings are prayed for all Truthers every night! I don't know who all of them are, but I am sure that G-d does. 🙏

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Mike Adam’s also used the same line for the fake Las Vegas shooting. And lady. Any swat team sharp shooter will tell you 200 yards is. His doctor? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Because a Dr is a ballistics expert now. Go look at his photo from yesterday. Where TF is the scratch on his cheek? Or are you also to programmed to think for yourself. It’s so easy to manipulate the slave class. I’m almost rooting for the bad guys here bc convincing you all to think critically is an impossible task. You love your shackles. Do yourself a favor and shut the tv off and pick up some books ffs. All of you.

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You’re assuming he’s not in the charade actors act they do what they’re told. You are also assuming the shots were real and not blanks. Holy hell the public has been so brainwashed and dumbed down they can’t fanthom other truths. The dj killed millions with his vaccine he pushed. And he incentivized the hospitals to kill millions with the cares act. And here you people sit and defend him. What the hell is wrong with you people? He does not care about any of you. He is the deep state wake the hell up. The whole thing was a show so he can leverage sympathy for you sheep.

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Are you making any assumptions?

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In trying to figure out this stuff there is a value to inquiry and a drawback both at the same time: the more evidence one has, the more likely one is to get the correct answer to any questions. That raises one's hopes of finding out what really occurred. At the same time, if one is bringing new information to bear: the evidence can be flawed, something might have been overlooked, or someone might be giving out wrong information. Therefore, such inquiry might uncover the truth, but it is just as likely to hide the truth. My primary referent example is that of science ---or "science (TM)" Electricity is a "juice" going through a wire. Oh wow. Are you really understanding anything through that sort of information? Oh but we will straighten it all out. Electricity involves electrons. Feel better now? The inquiry just goes on and on.

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Yes. The search for what is is endless. It's endlessly entertaining for the curious and exhausting for those who are looking for certainty.

However we should be able to understand that it is much easier to know what isn't. In other words, what DIDN'T happen. This is important at this moment because once we can arrive at a consensus that there was more than one person shooting at the former President, all attempts by our authorities to frame this as a lone shooter with incompetent security will be properly seen as desperate attempts to hide their complicity in this.

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I will agree with idea about knowing what "isn't" (as if "is" and "is not" are somehow to be distinguished) only insofar as the nature of that thing that DIDN'T happen. What did NOT happen is the Secret Service did not have press conferences or tell anybody anything. I do not know for sure how many shooters there were. Those things are difficult; but what I am sure is not or what isn't happening here is that the media isn't telling us the truth. They never do do they? And they went into immediate lockdown mode, not including the public. They do not believe in sharing information. So there must be a reason for that preference. They do not believe that the public has the right to know anything. All they want to do is deceive us and withold information. I read that the Secret Service had not one news conference. They could have one every day. Why do they not have antying to say? What are they hiding? If I were in Trumps' shoes (which I find easy enough to imagine), I would first say, "thank you boys for maybe saving me. But I also have a few questions for you..."

This country is totally broken and the only cure is to for G-ds sake dis-elect them out of their elected offices, starting with Joe and Jill Biden and including Anthony Blinken and the other mass murdering killers of persons all across the globe. And they are saying it is TRUMP who is the "fascist" and the "animal" and that does not no longer resonate so take you Harvard Ph.D. and get on out of here.

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The video of Trump onstage has been altered to make it look like the spectators behind him are close. Direct video of the stage shows people the same size as Trump and the SS agents. Video taken from the side of the stage shows the stage being approximately 20 ft deep, with a 30-40ft grass area behind the stage in front of the bleachers.

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The video you refer to was taken by a press camera at the back of the audience area. The altering of perspective is an effect of the telephoto lens on the camera.

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Totally disagree. Telephoto lens does not make people in backgroubd appear larger while not affecting people in the foreground

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On the contrary, a large telephoto setting (magnificaton of distant objects) has a fore-shortening effect on the total image--the apparent depth of distance between objects is reduced. Ask any good photographer about this.

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