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Your background in both engineering and medicine qualify you perfectly to expose the affinities between 9/11 and Covid-19. What’s more, your exposition is lucid and practical, since you mention logical considerations as well as psychological elements in terms of discussing major cover-ups with people who disagree with you. The suggestions you offer for approaching those discussions are very helpful, thanks for this brilliant post.

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Thanks David. If people were rational this would be a slam dunk. Sadly we have a much more difficult task at hand

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Yes, a few of the "normies", especially the younger ones might have never really thought about it and will think rationally when presented the facts. But the vast majority not only believe a lie, they love the lie they believe in and will cling to it despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

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They might be more rational than we think, just not reasonable

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May 22·edited May 23Liked by Madhava Setty

Your explanation of the state of the human brain under anesthesia, and then the way you develop it into a metaphor for mass formation psychosis, is brilliantly illuminating. Thank you! The rest of your article is fascinating, too.

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so interesting that we both decided to express something about 9/11 on this day. you know, i have been occupied with the topic ever since the towers came down 4 miles from where i slept that evening. those attacks and the confidence to fool the public about them were the fruit of psychological research that goes back, at least, to Asch. When i was a student of social psychology we first learned about Asch as a noble scientist who was warning Americans that we face the same danger that swept through Germany and into his native Poland, in the 30s. But more recently I have come to learn that Asch's conformity studies were originally funded by the Office of Naval Intelligence. They also instigated one of the modern psychedelic movements, that of Timothy Leary. Another interesting topic to explore... Congratulations on another stimulating, enlightening article about the most crucial issues of our time.

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May 22Liked by Madhava Setty

Outstanding, this is so hopeful. As I've said in the past, my understanding of the 9/11 fake narrative was a big help for me in seeing through the Covid operation near the beginning. It's my hope (and expectation) that the many who have awakened from the Covid 'dream" will start to wonder what else have they been lied to about, and 9/11 truth will be the big one, waiting to be acknowledged. Thanks as always for your service in being a truth warrior, Madhava, and your help in patiently and compassionately assisting people out of such ruinous dreams.

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Yes, this is an excellent drawing together of parallels. I am one of "the many" for whom the Covid lies awakened me to the false nature of other Narratives I had swallowed, including 9/11 and climate change. I clearly remember the moment in 2021 when my husband, after delving into the 9/11 story, started to tell me it was faked - I told him not to tell me, I don't want to know this! It was like discovering that one was adopted, or one's father wasn't the "real" father, etc. Rewriting one's history can be such a shock. But watching testimonies from this doco (Covid19/11) finally opened my 9/11 eyes: https://odysee.com/@offguardian:2/Covid1911FullCompilation:b

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May 22Liked by Madhava Setty

Thank you AGAIN Madhava for giving “we the courageous minority” some hope; you help us to stand strong(er) and not fold under these extremely oppressive realities. We need such strategies as you provided here. I’ve made some of the errors early on that you mentioned avoiding. I am an artist and feel that my creativity is probably my best bet for revealing the truth but am currently at a loss as to how to express it. Thank you for inspiring me to think more deeply about how I might better use my artistic voice.

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May 23Liked by Madhava Setty

Well written.

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May 23Liked by Madhava Setty

Maybe think of other approaches. Just to let a drop of doubt in their mind. I don't mind saying I am not a science person at all. As a non-science person, I think maybe try different approaches for the peopIe in the back of the science class trying to hide so the teacher doesn't call on them.

I recognize this science deficiency about myself and just don't go into science at all. After all do we really know for sure the Moon is not made of cheese. I mean I have seen pictures. There seems to be craters, and holes on the surface which to me resembles that of swiss cheese. I'm just saying it can't be ruled out as no one has ever proven without a doubt the moon is not made of cheese.

After I am done trying to figure out what the Moon is made from I tend to ask people who believe the standard narrative, exactly how many buildings fell down on 9/11? They usually say two. But nope I tell them three. Even to this day a quick internet search still says three fell that day if you ask the right questions. They get a little puzzled after they realize they were wrong all these years. That is my point. Why the heck has our media gone to the trouble to forget the third building? It is like the third building never fell down for the most part. Think of all the news media from that time. How often did they mention the third building. It was always just two buildings they show. Two buildings that they talk about. Never three. Why?

It is almost like there was a coherent, massive effort from our media, our leaders, to forget that third building. But nah. That couldn't be. That would have to mean all our media got together and decided not to talk about the third building falling down that day. Well that sounds nuts. But I let that sit there and ferment in their mind and check back with them a few days later. They are still puzzled days later but at least I got it into their heads that our media isn't exactly truthful.

No science required there. Just exposure of how truthful our media tends to be. How they hide what needs to be hidden, and why would they not talk about the third building? What's up with that? Do you think our media would be dishonest about other stuff?

So about the moon and cheese, still a debate there,.... huh.

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May 22·edited May 22

Petra has a lot of good articles and links about it. Might be of interest.

https://substack.com/@petraliverani?r=1t06qv&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=profile

The bottom line is: it was a controlled demolition and there were no planes at all.

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I would caution about making such statements to people who you are trying to convince. It is similar to jumping straight to "no virus" claims. You are asking people to believe something that is difficult to prove, as there is evidence to the contrary. Further, you do not need to prove such a claim to win the argument. Looking at the intitial test data for the Covid vaccines is sufficient to show that they are not effective and are dangerous--you do not have to attack the theory of viruses. And, looking critically at the NIST report about the collapse of building 7 is sufficient to call their narrative of fire-induced collapse into question--you do not have to prove that there were no planes.

As Madhava Setty explains, we first need to get other people to look at the evidence at all. You cannot get there by making claims that they will immediately reject.

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I agree to some extent.

However, please note that I do NOT try to convince people - and I don't think I sounded as such. I merely posted a link for a bunch who seem well clued up with regards to government psyops AND seem to possess a good amount of intellectual curiosity to perhaps look at the link and the arguments laid out - who knows, maybe you learn something new.

However, if it's no interest to you then be it, I won't be upset :)

Also, please be assured, I don't go around telling ppl it was yet another hoax, one in a long list of hoaxes.

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The Military/Industrial Complex and the Biowarfare/industrial Complex, WEF agenda and the evils assaulting humanity are from one and the same source - it is the 99% against the diabolical GREED of the 0.01% who should not be in charge of anything!

There is an insidious global ruling class plot to enslave all life on earth behind all the madness and suffering inflicted on We the People.

How to fight back against this NO CASH TOTAL SLAVERY!

RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! DITCH THE DAMNED 'SMART' PHONES AND THE DAMNED QR CODES AND GO BACK TO LANDLINES OR FLIP PHONES AND USE CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! INSIST ON CASH! CBDC IS TOTAL SLAVERY!

Proudly ANTI-VAXX! Reiterating for the sake of newbies and to support this post.

Ban all vaccine jabs! There has never been a 'safe and effective' vaccine since Edward Jenner's fraud over 200 years ago as per 'Dissolving Illusions' by Suzanne Humphries and 'Turtles All the Way Down' by Anonymous. Health can never come from a needle or pills, but from healthy eating, healthy exercise and healthy living!

JAB INJURIES: GROSS CALAMARI BLOOD CLOTS/AUTISM TSUNAMI/SADS/TURBO CANCER/BIZARRE TERMINAL ILLNESSES: More tragic victims of the ruling parasite genocidal enslavement agenda, sacrificed on the altar of psychopathic greed and hatred of humanity.

A vast majority of so-called leaders and Public 'Serpents' around the world have been bribed, blackmailed/coerced into serving the interests of their technocratic New World Ordure parasite masters and not We the People. Insidious CONTROLLED OPPOSITION is everywhere too.

GREED is behind every evil assailing us in the world!

The demonic despots of Davos at it again! They are behind everything bad! At it for decades and cronies like The Rothschilds and the Black Nobility and The Khazarian Mafia have been plotting planetary domination for centuries! ALL BECAUSE OF AVARICE!

We the People must try harder to live by The Golden Rule, doing so would solve most problems!

THEY can't get rid of the 'useless eaters' fast enough! Mistakes were not made, it was always malice aforethought.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN EVEN WORSE FRAUD THAN THE PLANSCAMDEMIC! SO-CALLED GREEN TECH IS A GIGANTIC SCAM! MINING AND MANUFACTURING 'GREEN' PRODUCTS NEEDS COAL, GAS AND OIL AND MINING RARE MINERALS IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY TOXIC AND DESTRUCTIVE THAN LEGACY PRODUCTS. SCREW YOUR DAMNED AGENDA! https://climateviewer.com

Migrant/Entrant Invasion/Infrastructure Attacks - all part of the destructive plot to achieve total slavery!

Apoplectic livid rage hardly describes the intensity of emotions I have had and am having over what these malignant globalists are perpetrating!

There is no noxious crime that the evildoers desiring to lord it over us won't commit to maintain their stranglehold on power. A groundswell critical mass resistance to their murderous enslavement plans is needed urgently!

Creative performing arts, fine arts and literary arts are the best part of being human and the thing the globalist predator technocrat megalomaniac total slavery control freaks most want to destroy.

Too many 'sheeple' are brainwashed to blindly obey authority figures on the media or in daily life in corrupt system ruled by control freak psychopaths who use propaganda lies to enslave their subjects and they are dumbed down to be obedient by 'education' institutions. Fortunately I was raised to question everything. This transcends party lines. We need a system that punishes psychopaths and rewards compassion and sharing, we need a system that actually follows The Constitution in reality.

I DO NOT COMPLY! NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL!

There is a fate worse than death - I would rather die than be a robotized slave of technocratic overlords! This is my hill to die on!

I have a landline and a wired laptop and a wired monitor screen, all the tech anyone should ever want or need. I never had and refuse to ever have one of those infernal mobile devices that are designed to enslave you.

My loathing of AI and all things NANO and digital knows no bounds!

Kudos to Madhava Setty's heroic efforts and success in the struggle. We the People must always be aware of the existential threats lurking behind this fight!

How I stick my thumb in the eyes of the grotesque billionaire bastards pushing their enslavement agenda and how I embrace being fully human.

Fighting the globalist predator technocrat psychopath megalomaniac TOTAL SLAVERY AGENDA one performance at a time!

Amazing Amy: Eccentric Yoga Entertainer!

As an entertainer, I have been devastated and practically destroyed by the closure of all performance venues and then when they reopened, because MY BODY, MY CHOICE - being made a total untermenschen pariah outcast in NAZI NIGHTMARE LAWLESS 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' JAB CROW APARTHEID/DISCRIMINATION/SEGREGATION HELL NYC WHERE THE MAD/DRUNK WITH POWER TYRANT POLS DOUBLE DOWN ON THEIR ILLEGAL MANDATES. I am trapped here with zero financial resources to leave or do anything else about this 'wish I were dead' endless misery life has become. The tragic irony is that my SPREAD THE YOGA LOVE performances are all about health, miraculously overcoming age (68) and injury to achieve feats of flexibility few can attain at any age. So BIG PHARMA who wants to addict every person on the planet to their toxic products hate people like me who prove that we do not need them if we eat healthy organic food and exercise daily!

https://www.reverbnation.com/artist/amazingamycontortionistuniqueyogadancer

I try and live and embody the creative performing artistic world and life I so fervently want existence to be about.

They can stick their f*cking damned NANO, Digital IDs, AI, jabs and chips up their asses where the sun don't shine!

All manner of lies and propaganda spew forth from the upper echelons in governments worldwide who are completely intertwined with the global criminal ruling class that wants to commit the worst atrocities imaginable and suffer no consequences. And their corruption slithers down the chain of command creating petty tyrants everywhere.

Supporting this excellent post with a statement and useful links. https://virustruth.net

We the People are facing HORRIFYING TECHNOCRATIC PSYCHOPATHY TO DESTROY HUMANITY AND ALL NATURAL LIFE!

It was NEVER about health! The Powers That Should Not Be were ALWAYS about they want you DEAD or a SLAVE! This is a painful truth to accept but we the people must wake up and fight back!

We must never lose sight of the larger picture of the vile malignance we are fighting against.

Other than getting rid of nuclear weapons which I support 100% the rest of the anti-nuclear peace movement and CLIMATE CRISIS propaganda is parroting UN utter GARBAGE, a complete surrender to the ENSLAVEMENT AGENDA by the diabolical despots of Davos - ruling class criminals who lust for total power and control and all of whom should be tried and jailed for life and their malign organizations dismantled: the UN, the WEF, the IMF, the WHO, the BIS, NATO, Blackrock, Vanguard, The Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, The Bilderbergers, the CFR et al.

There is an evil predator globalist technocratic elite agenda of eugenics/depopulation/genocide using bioweapon poison jabs, war, geoengineering, EMF radiation, starvation and economic collapse - THE GREAT RESET/AGENDA 2030/4TH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION to get rid of billions of 'useless eaters' and to use nano tech to turn the survivors into ROBOTIZED COMPLIANT SLAVES! WAKE UP AND RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! These are psychopath megalomaniacs who want to play god by turning all life into digitized metaverse mechanistic synthetic biology to be manipulated by their AI algorithms. A more demonic sickening idea is nearly impossible to imagine!

APPALLED AND HORRIFIED AT INSANE TYRANNICAL PROTOCOLS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TOTALITARIAN CONTROL! REVERSE THIS NOW!

MAKE THE WORLD AND AMERICA 2019 (comparatively speaking), AND FREE AGAIN!

NO, I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE MORONIC SCARIANT SHMARIANT MONKEYSHINES! WAKE UP ALREADY!

TOTALLY CONDEMN BIDEN AND ALL OTHER POLS WHO HAVE NO POWER TO LAWLESSLY ACT LIKE AN EMPEROR OR DICTATOR AND DECREE JAB CROW 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' FASCIST SEGREGATION/DISCRIMINATION/APARTHEID VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE NUREMBERG CODES AND EVERY CIVIL RIGHT IMAGINABLE.

NO GREEN NEW DEALS OR BUILD BACK BETTER FROM THE CRIMINAL TECHNOCRAT TYRANTS KLAUS SCHWAB AND HIS CRONIES FROM THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM.

STOP THE TERRIBLE TYRANNY OF THE TECHNOCRATS GLOBAL AGENDA OF TOTAL SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL USING THE VIRUS AS EXCUSE AND PROPAGANDA TOOL!

NO MUZZLING STIFLING MASK MANDATES! NO FORCED VACCINES! END TORTUROUS DEVASTATING LOCK DOWNS NOW! I WANT MY LIFE BACK.

https://wrenchinthegears.com

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com

https://pandemicfacts.info

https://wearehumanwearefree.org/7-days-campaign/

https://sonsoflibertymedia.com/covid-19-roadmap-12-step-plan-to-create-a-totalitarian-new-world-order-were-on-number-8-headed-towards-number-9/

https://questioningcovid.com

https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1581-james-corbett-breaks-down-the-great-reset/

http://www.stopcp.com/GlobalResetPSYOP/GlobalResetPSYOPMindMap.html

https://everydayconcerned.net/2020/09/04/breaking-major-investigative-report-by-association-of-french-reserve-army-officers-finds-covid-19-pandemic-to-have-a-hidden-agenda-for-global-totalitarianism-nanotech-chipping-of-all-5g-irradia/

Pam Popper: https://makeamericansfreeagain.com

Del Bigtree: https://www.brighteon.com/channels/highwire

https://www.technocracy.news

Naomi Wolf: https://dailyclout.io

www.nojabforme.info

https://www.globalresearch.ca/we-must-awaken-from-corona-coma-reject-great-reset-robotic-technocracy-assert-common-humanity/5745213

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Yes. I like to let people know that I have questions, I don't know the answers, but there's something that I'm not sure about, that doesn't quite add up, so I'm exploring and asking questions before I make up my mind. With geoengineering for example, I am very uncertain still about what exactly is going on, so it's easy for me to approach the topic this way. I say, I've noticed these planes flying in strange patterns. They are not following commercial flight paths, nor are they military planes. They are turning something on and off, like a sky writer would do. So, I know it's not condensation. It's not contrails. Also, it's not normal to have planes flying in grid patterns. I don't know that it's geoengineering, but it's definitely not normal. So, what is it? And who's doing it? And why isn't anyone talking about it? I have gotten a lot of people to look up at the sky and notice as a result of these kinds of conversations. Even my Mom is now bringing this up with her friends. Because I myself don't have the answers and don't know what's going on, it's easy for me to maintain this neutral stance of curiosity and uncertainty when talking to people about it. But, with COVID it's been harder for me to talk with people because it seems to be much more personal for all of us. I find myself feeling more invested, and I find that other people are also more "dug in" with their views and perspectives on what is the "truth" and what information from what sources can be trusted. People simply can't hear me when I say I'm questioning the jabs. I believe that this has a lot to do with how much inner work people have done around sovereignty and victimhood, codependency, and taking responsibility for our own health. So many people are so programmed to believe that doctors are saviors. We are much more willing to give our power away to the medical establishment, because doctors do and can save lives. But, unless you've had an experience of doctors NOT knowing, or NOT helping you, then it's possible you haven't yet woken up to the possibility that the medical establishment is not what it seems, and you'll still trust everything that comes out of it. Yolanda Norris Clark has done some incredible work in this realm, explaining how we give our power away, and how to reclaim it around birth (but it translates to all health and bodily sovereignty). If you haven't already, you may want to look into her work as it could shed more light on some of the complexities around the COVID psyop in particular. I for one would certainly like to understand this aspect better, because I have a neighbor who gave me a copy of the movie "Seven" but he also got the jab. So, I'm curious about how he can see the deception of 9/11 but not COVID.

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Solidarity for HUMANITY!

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I can easily elicit from taxi drivers the fact that they don't believe the government narrative. My hairdresser says she elicits this this, too, from her clients. Here's how I do it with taxi drivers in Boston. I jump in, say something friendly, and then if we get near Copley Sq, I ask "Were you here in 2013 when they had the Marathon bombing?" No matter whether he says Yes or No, I say "You know the official story is garbage, right? -- that Russian kid didn't do it." Almost every cabbie agrees with me! Sure, he may have an eye on the tip. But I get the impression he is willing to talk because I have spoken in a relaxed way. To me this suggests there are a lot of unbelievers out there.

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Thank you for posting this. Your insights and advice are very helpful for me. You are a great presenter. I hope I can incorporate your suggestions in my efforts to communicate with others.

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If you’ve been following my substack from day one and you’ve read each and every article, which I suggest you do, you would have seen the patterns emerging with regards to the “9/11 truth movement” which seems to be in lock step with what we’re seeing in the “health freedom movement”, but don’t just take my word for it...

Link: https://911revision.substack.com/p/participation-in-the-911-warroom

Wikipedia's block listed 9/11 scientist.

Cancelled by Wikipedia for 14 years and counting

Link: https://911revision.substack.com/p/wikipedias-block-listed-911-scientist

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Have you ever seen the video of the kindergarteners chanting “kite hit plane steel must” to GWB just before the towers were attacked? I feel there is no way to explain that away, the way people do with science-y evidence.

It’s here among other places. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ71d2DtAnI

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