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Nov 9Liked by Madhava Setty

First and foremost, I’m antiwar. I like to speak my mind without being shushed. I believe charity begins at home. I don’t like dictators…

This used to make me a democrat. Now it makes me a republican. And when the Republicans stop supporting these ideals, I’ll move on to the party who supports them.

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Two separate issues -- "Peace and Freedom". The Democratic Party wasn't always a champion of peace and freedom, but at least there was a place for us in their left wing. Now the Democratic party, as you say, is squarely opposed to both peace and freedom (freedom of speech and "my body my choice").

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Why are you anti war? If your country does not win wars you end up like a Somalian - do you want that?

https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/why-war-is-awesome/

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Nov 9Liked by Madhava Setty

Your discussion about Christopher Wallis resonates with me. I was involved with a spiritual/metaphysical community for over 30 years. Many of them have the same attitude as Wallis towards Trump, the election and all this portends. For a group of people actively engaged in self-healing, consciously evolving and finding sovereignty within themselves, to be so influenced by propaganda leaves me speechless and estranged. They believe we are moving into a "Nightmare" with this election. I think we are moving towards a "Dream" - a "Dream" in it's infancy hovering on the edge of our reality. I'm not in any way saying Trump is a savior - he's not. A political solution is but a piece of the path forward. Belief creates the boundaries within which you perceive reality around you. I perceive this so differently than those people. So I am not sure how this resolves. But in the meantime I'm celebrating hope & optimism but not expecting perfection.

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I think the failure of these communities is yet another sign that we cannot rely on anyone else to tell us what is going on. Similarly, we have no right to impose our ideas on others. I do think that if people can come together and offer perspectives and discuss them openly and without any risk of condemnation we can help each other. Communities that denigrate dissent are either confused or up to no good.

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Me too . Its so bizarre to witness so many grieving , angry , bitter and practically suicidal people since the election. While I feel a sense of relief. I know we’re not out of the woods . In fact things could get worse. But somehow I have hope .

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Elections are fake.. it's all fake https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/what-if/

So let the morons kill themselves.. it cures stupidity...

Anyone who votes should hand themselves.. they are pathetic and all they do is provide credibility for these phony elections - this is the real power https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/who-runs-the-world

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Nov 9Liked by Madhava Setty

" falsehoods spread more quickly than truth because they are simpler whereas the truth is harder to grasp.” This says it all. Wallis doesn't even know that this statement actually supports those outliers who did not go along with popular opinion and so continued to ask uncomfortable questions confronting consensus. If one were to look at history, it could be easily seen that those who came upon truth were always ridiculed, always outliers, questioners. Copernicus, Galileo, come to mind.

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Exactly. Every time there was a paradigm shift it was the minority that was correct. Of course that doesn't mean the majority is always wrong. But a majority that is unwilling to be challenged is sooner or later going to get it wrong and they will never know it.

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This is a brilliant article on the major part of that topic:

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-illusion-of-expertise/

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This is very succinct. The conceptual grasp of the calculated events that occurred on 9/11 is too much for the general populace. You really need to dig, research and understand the socio-political trajectory that generated the hubris to initiate such an all-encompassing takeover of the power structure in the United States. For any seekers, "30 seconds of silence" by Jonathan Cole or "Peace, War, and 9/11" are a good place to start. "The Untold History of the United States" will help with some background.

Peace

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Nov 9·edited Nov 10Liked by Madhava Setty

I think for many people the delusions took such deep root because they really and truly had no idea of the nature and extent of the censorship. Most of the multiply-jabbed people I know still have no idea the extent of the health authorities' and Big Pharma's frauds and the jab deaths and injuries, some of which are beyond horrific. No idea. Literally none. Trying to tell them, in my experience, is counter-productive. For them, Trump is (fill-in-the-blank-with-every-bad-thing-you-can-think-of) and RFK is a fringey kook, and the covid bioweapon gene-therapy jabs are safe & effective vaccines, "science" is science, end of story. I think, when Trump takes office and takes concrete steps to restore free speech, they're about to get the shock of their lives. And I feel for them. It's not easy to get one's mind around it all. I've had the advantage of a few years of being aware that I'm being lied to, and I still find it shocking.

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Trump is a blockhead supporter of the deadly jabs which he warp sped. Had to vote for him anyway because of EVERYTHING ELSE!

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Is it a coincidence that pseudo-science superseded Science at the same time the letter of the law superseded The Spirit of the Law?

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The Nation had an editorial that goes half-way toward acknowledging the Democrats' problem.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/democratic-party-elite-responsible-catastrophe/

"They shouldn't have let Trump run as a peace candidate" -- but they stop short of saying that the Democrats have become the party of Neocon regime-change wars.

TheNation blames Harris for not targeting her appeal to working class people -- but they stop short of saying that Democratic policies have abandoned working people and union workers, who can no longer afford to own a home and buy groceries at the same time.

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I had a Yuval Hariri book in my possession at one point, when I did not know who he was or whether to like him or not it. So I considered this document. It may have sounded good for a few minutes, but I saw right through him if I may say so myself. By evaluating it, reading quite carefully, for some time (like an hour - I don't know - perhaps), I began to see what it was. I could tell it was all wrong --- an attempt to interpret all of history but only according to his own spedifications. He was reconstructing history according to his own view. Which of course ignores a whole collection of other persons' work and ignores previous traditions of interpretation. Are all those schools of interpretation really that bad? Or is Hariri making a lot of stuff up without listening to what anyone else has had to say and creating a version of "the history of a species" that is not threatened by anyone?

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A quick search on wikipedia allows you to note this (translation from me).

Yuval Noah Harari's "Critical Reception":

"His work sparked the interest of scholars and the general public alike and quickly made Harari a celebrity, with his recommendation by Mark Zuckerberg to his book club contributing to this, as did Barack Obama who 'loved this story of humanity from the sky' and Bill Gates who warmly recommended this 'invigorating' book."

From Darshana Narayanan, in Current Affairs:

"Harari has seduced us with his stories, but a close examination of his work shows that he sacrifices science for sensationalism, often makes serious factual errors, and presents what is speculation as certain. The sources on which he bases his statements are obscure, as he rarely provides adequate footnotes or references and is remarkably stingy in his gratitude to the thinkers who formulated the ideas he presents as his own. »

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Nov 9·edited Nov 9Liked by Madhava Setty

Thanks for a great article!

“Geometry is hard” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

God willing, the truth, or at least some of it, will be revealed. In the meantime those of us who dare to mention the inconvenient facts of ballistics or building number 7 are the ones suffering from paranoid delusions.

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I do believe that Hollywood tells us what is going to happen. I always wondered about all the zombie apocalypse themes they were putting out ten years ago or more...

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That has often crossed my mind.

PS My fave was Shawn of the Dead.

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Thank you, Madhava, for presenting both sides in a fair and reasonable way. It helps me with my goal of communicating, in my own circle, in a way that causes inclusivity.

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Nov 10Liked by Madhava Setty

Wow! Great insights. Thanks. Loved it. Priggish is right on. I was happy Trump won, because of the priggish attitude, the ridiculous rationalizations that our economy is great—I stepped into a hornets nest in talking about inflation with friends, it was a political betrayal to them!. I was appalled by the mindless support of Joe Biden in cognitive decline, and then the rejoicing of an undemocratic coronation of Kamala. Unbelievable! The talk about freedom when Dems are censoring. The ridicule of RFK & Tulsi and those with different opinions. I didn’t realize how much anger and frustration I had. Thanks for your article. I really appreciate it.

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Thanks Doug. The left responded to the threat of another Trump term like they did to Covid. They shut down all cognitive functioning and ran to the only solution their sources offered and condemned anyone who resisted as a threat to their survival.

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Nov 10Liked by Madhava Setty

Thought leaders need to be critical thinkers and avail themselves of multiple sources of information. I don't see that in Christopher Wallis.

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It's a pattern of his. One would think that an intelligent person who is not well versed in science to admit that they don't know enough to weigh in, let alone condemn others for not seeing the way they do.

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Dr. Setty, no mention of the genocide, you know the one in Gaza, where we help Israel further its illegal occupation or is it defense? This is the reason I voted for Jill Stein.

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The Gaza situation is reprehensible on so many levels. Sadly both major parties have little between them on this issue. I do believe a referendum on our middle east policy will most effectively take place if the truth about 9/11 gets out. It's intimately connected.

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One can only hope , but that is a very large "IF"....

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The role of Israel in 9/11 is a third rail, even for the organized opposition to the Israeli occupation. Six years ago, I raised the question -- just the question -- at a meeting of Jewish Voice for Peace and was summarily expelled from the meeting.

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Thanks for the thoughtful analysis.

You do leave out a couple of strong possibilities...that the goal of this whole election charade is to convince us that the system works for the people rather than for the corporate overlords...that the Dems do better in loss than in victory...that to keep us all at each other's throats has always and forever been a central and highly effective strategy

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Absolutely correct. That's what I meant by national elections being theater. A story that we have a choice. Going back six decades USG expenditures are essentially the same no matter who is in office.

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Nov 12·edited Nov 12Liked by Madhava Setty

Oh how I enjoyed that op-ed! Thanks for sharing. This week has been so so fun, even though I am generally not a big believer in political allegiance of any kind. I blame the exhaustion of the last few years standing alone and my lizard brain just being happy to be on the winning team for once. I planned to vote for RJK jr but he wasn't on my ballot in the end, so I did vote for Trump and hopefully contributed to the popular vote numbers even from my blue state. I also enjoyed reading about your commitment to hearing what everyone has to say rather than dismissing them out of hand for whatever perceived sins they may have committed. People who can't do this are way too religious for me, no matter where they stand on issues I care about. I left religion because it didn't align with my values of curiosity and open mindedness, so I really have zero patience for dogma where ever I find it, even in secular circles. Thank you for all you do to be an example of how to ask questions and apply logic. You are simply brilliant.

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If any generalization can be made, it is how the left feels they are justified to dismiss someone without hearing what they have to say. There is no way an intelligent person can justify this strategy, and ironically they regard themselves as the wisest of the two sides.

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I think the denial, intolerance and refusal to entertain the thoughts of the other side has become a very one-sided issue. Our side is inevitably confronted with their view via the MSM and official policies- we have to engage with them to arrive at our different conclusions, they don't have to and mostly won't engage with us/ours.

I see your points about still engaging with them, but I must say that my wife and I have come to the conclusion that those people/former friends don't add anything positive to our lives anymore.

The most we can have with them is shallow, self-censored conversations, so why bother?

With regard to medical professionals, of whom we had quite a few among our friends, we cannot and do not take any of them seriously anymore outside of their narrow area of specialisation, if/as they were on board with the Covid scam and gene-therapied.

Least of all the alternative medicine people: if you got the goo as naturopath, body hacker or the like, for us, you have zero credibility even in your own field, and we'll tell you.

I recently had two further eye-opening experiences. The first one was reading Diana Johnstone's book about the breakup of Yugoslavia. As a German, I experienced this quite closely and cognizantly at the time and/but all my knowledge was MSM fed. This book turns the official story on its head, and I couldn't believe how manipulated and duped I was, how evil our government really acted at the time in this matter and this read has actually shocked me profoundly, because I lived through and followed this topic so cognizantly at the time.

However, I know, not least through your work, that this is also an, in my view though plausible, well researched and balanced, account by just one, biased, person, and that I should still keep this in mind.

Another thing happened just a few days ago: the despicable violence towards Jewish football supporters in Amsterdam.

However, today I read that this was absolutely not unprovoked and that these Jewish supporters behaved despicable, provocative, threatening and even violent against normal Muslims in Amsterdam the day before.

I find it most disgusting and telling, that there is absolutely no mention of this first incidence in the media at all, and that the sole reporting of this and the framing is now solely as if this was another progrom.

However, I keep in mind that I/we must again be sceptical about both sources, sides and their biases and that in truth, I/we KNOW nothing for sure about these events.

How many people can and will do that though?

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Just in response to the Amsterdam violence, it is continuing as you may have seen, without Israelis, so while I find it significant that they were not blameless, the undercurrent of violence from unintegrated men is bubbling to the surface just like a lot of smart people said it would and we need to deal with it.

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In order to understand what has just happened, and what happened four and eight years ago, you have to realise that the Deep State, the Cabal, or whatever (various other names are available) really exists. Before Donald Trump arrived on the scene, they had completely taken over both main political parties in the US (I am not a US citizen and I have never been there, just to mark your card). Donald Trump's real purpose was to take them down. There was only one way that he could be elected and that was to come from the 'Dark Side' making them believe that he was one of them. There were two things that showed anyone who had eyes to see that this was his mission. One was the way that he began to get rid of any Deep State operatives in the upper reaches of the Republican party. Do you remember how he seemed to be firing everyone in the early months of his first administration? The other was the way that Isis in the Middle East just disappeared off the radar (there was no longer anyone to support and finance them clandestinely) and North Korea ceased to be a threat. The Deep State's modus operandi is to create division wherever it can in the world but not Trump's. He would have continued to do that work if the Democrats had not rigged the last election. Trump would have won that one (did win that one) if it had been fair. This time they were unable to rig it. But Trump is not in office yet and a lot can still happen so I would not bet (even if I were a betting man) on what is going to happen in the coming months. One thing is certain though: there is going to be an enormous amount of change in the US in the months (and years) ahead. But it's necessary change. And it didn't really matter who was elected this time anyway, because the change had already been set in motion. No one can stop it. It may lead to the dissolution of the US as a single country. Donald Trump is not going to be able to fulfil his declared aim to make America great again. Its time as a superpower, economically and in terms of its world influence is over. It will soon be no more relevant than the previous world power where I was born and currently live, the so-called United KIngdom. By the way, I am not a natural Donald Trump supporter. Until a few years ago I would have described myself as rather to the left of centre. Now I have eschewed all political allegiance.

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I think his first term came as a surprise to the Deep State. However they used him for their own purposes very strategically. The easiest way to hide a secret is to discredit the person who is revealing the secret. Trump fell into their trap because of his inability to come across as coherent and credible. From that point on, every attempt he made to call out the Deep State reinforced half the population's idea that a Deep State was a figment of his imagination.

I hope that he has learned something. He poses a much bigger threat to the swamp this time.

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Come on ... how did his ear heal in two weeks - and without a scar?

You are being PLAYED. Wake up

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I agree that the realization that there is a Deep State and collusion among the media, government, and the security state is essential for understanding why people voted for Trump. Seeing this play out in America and on the world stage during the Covid fiasco opened many eyes.

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Trump got enough working class votes to win. So: the working class decided the election!

Is this a sort of "proletarian" statement for our time? It was the working class who put him over.

They know the distinction between a dark tunnel and a shining light! They are smart like that...

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In my experience, the working class are far wiser than educated elites.

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There was no election.

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