On September 2, Offit penned a piece on his own substack newsletter. The article is titled "To Serve Man". I think he wrote it before he found out about his dismissal from the FDA VRBPAC. In it he recycles all of his false talking points about Secretary Kennedy.
Here is the comment I left there. Consider leaving your own comments there. To his credit, Offit allows all to leave comments, not just paying subscribers like most heavy influencers.
Cite the study that compares unvaccinated to vaccinated children with regard to chronic disease load over an extended observation period. That would make Kennedy and all his antivaxxer nut jobs stand down.
The problem is that there isn't any. Worse yet, the study could be done today and should have been done thirty years ago. What proof does the CDC have that it's immunization schedule is safe? Why does the onus of proof sit with those who believe they could be harmful when the CDC, by their own recommendations claim that their immunization schedule is safe?
You helped write the amicus briefing to the SCOTUS in support of the National Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. I read it. Vaccine manufacturers need indemnification because otherwise they would stop making vaccines. Okay. Fine. But the amicus also argued that that act formed the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund that was required because too many children were being injured by vaccines and were lost in the legal system.
That Fund has since paid over $5,000,000,000 to the vaccine injured. Devastating injuries are happening but we simply don't know how many.
The two measles deaths this year weren't from the measles. They were deaths from community acquired pneumonia that went unrecognized by the care team. The families are suing and they will win.
Tell us Paul, how many children do we need to vaccinate to prevent a pertussis death? Now tell us the serious adverse event frequency of that vaccine so we can understand something beyond "child died! It was antivaxxer propaganda!!"
You keep attacking Kennedy by making stuff up. He doesn't believe in germ theory? Really? He recommends the measles vaccine as the best way to prevent the measles. Why? How can the measles vaccine prevent the measles if there wasn't a germ involved? Care to explain that?
The evidence for HIV causing AIDS is very flimsy. This is not just his opinion. This is the opinion expressed by some the world's best medical researchers and virologists. Kennedy has asked us to examine the role of HHV6 in causing AIDS.
HHV6 is known to attack CD4+ and CD8+ lymphocytes unlike HIV. And HHV6 is a virus. In other words a GERM, Paul. He goes into this in great depth in his book "The Real Anthony Fauci". It's the book which you quote over and over where you claim you have proof that he believes in the miasma theory and not germ theory.
A quick look at the book proves you wrong. He explains what miasma theory is. He even goes so far as to describe miasma theory as the explanation that environmental factors play a role in making a person more susceptible to GERMS. And then he writes explicitly that he holds no opinion on the matter and defers to the medical community to sort things out. You're just lying and it is so easy demonstrable.
Look, nobody is going to deny that you have a ton of experience and understanding of the subject, but why make things up that aren't true? This stuff you are saying about Kennedy is so easily debunked it makes me think that you are suffering from a kind of delusion.
It's like you are so used to being unchallenged that you feel like you can say anything you want to and it will be true from the formidable authority you possess in this sphere.
Yesterday you found out that your services were no longer requested as an advisor to the FDA. Your response as quoted by the Guardian:
"I understand that it’s likely I didn’t get through HHS because Robert F Kennedy Jr may not like me as much as I’d hoped. I have been critical of the administration. But that’s OK, because it’s OK to have debate about things, it’s OK to question, and then if you think I’m wrong, tell me where I’m wrong."
So you hoped that Kennedy liked you MORE? Really? After these constant lies you spread about him, his work, his opinions which are backed by other doctors and scientists that are no less revered as you? It's OKAY to have a debate about things? Since when do you believe that Paul? You're on tape admitting that you cannot technically say that vaccines don't cause autism but you have to. Why? Because that would open up a debate.
Okay, why don't you invite Kennedy to have a debate, or a friendly conversation with you so you can hold his feet to the fire or prove he is bonkers like you say. You have had that opportunity but you never took it.
The public isn't stupid. Most aren't experts in virology and immunology or in any field at all. However they are smart enough to know that a guilty party will bend over backwards to see that evidence is not admitted while the innocent will advocate for full disclosure.
I am personally offended by what you are doing not just because I am a physician. It's because I trained at UPENN where you hold your professorship. I trained at CHoP where you developed your vaccine. Your lies and misrepresentation sullies my own training.
Offit said “It’s okay to have debate about things…it’s okay to question”?!
I’ve been reading Offits posts via your substack. I was attacked by crazy trolls in his comment section when he claimed to be Galileo regarding vaccines. He sounds completely different now….like the jig is up & there’s nobody behind him to shore up the lies.
I think it's different being delusional when you disagree with the world at large and being delusional when all the most respected people, the media, and the scientific literature supports your delusion. It's much harder to break through a person's delusions when they have this kind of support. Here are my thoughts on "What happens when the cult is the majority"?
It's a beautifully written essay. I am surprised I hadn't read it before.
While I agree that most of the medical professionals whom I know who adhere to the establishment position are suffering from a delusion of the majority as you describe, Offit is different. He knows his position cannot be supported by data or properly done studies.
I have maintained hope that he could be turned, knowing that he could have a legacy that exceeds what he is seeking to protect. An inventor of a vaccine that saved millions of hospital visits and probably quite a view innocent lives, who recognized the potential danger of these products and left the planet with safer vaccines for all!
Alas, it seems that he is too far committed to the establishment. I think he made a conscious decision to go all in. So his delusion is a bit different. I think he believes his voice is large enough that he can hold reality at bay. I say this because of his absurd attacks on Secretary Kennedy which are easily shown to be false. He's not at all afraid of being exposed as a liar.
Imagine claiming that Kennedy does not believe in germ theory by taking a single line of a book which devotes several chapters exposing the various potential pathogens more likely responsible for AIDS than HIV? I think he actually believes that because he says Bobby denies the existence of germs not only will people believe him, reality will change to adhere to his version of it.
But let me question this statement: "the cult is the majority".
I do not consider this to be true as, in my own experience, the great majority of the population, mister and madam everybody, do not support this "cult".
The advocates of the "cult" do everything possible to make us believe that they represent the majority. This is their most important maneuver to deceive and dominate us.
To consider what this guy is saying, the way he justifies his reasoning and goes on about those critical of it, the only comparison that comes up is with some of the worst people in the history of the world. The Stalins, the Maos, Goebbels, and all the rest who somehow in the dark compartments of their brains really believed that they were doing the right thing and expected that they would become heroes no one would ever forget.
"I have been critical of the administration...if you think I’m wrong, tell me where I’m wrong."
Right there. That's where you're wrong. You are not getting ousted because you have been critical of the administration. This is not based on politics, it's based on science. (I know. You have been so far removed from science for so long, there is a high degree of probability that you don't recognize it anymore.)
Twenty-four or so years ago, my son with autism was about five years old and I was already getting involved in the autism-vaccine connection. There was a local chapter of the Autism Society of America that I had joined but out of the small group of mothers, I was the only one interested in the vaccine connection. The last meeting I attended, a new person, Rose, walked in, sat down, and told her story. She had a perfectly typical 2 and 1/2 year old daughter who she recently had taken to her pediatrician for a check-up. Because she had missed the last two regularly scheduled visits for vaccinations, they made up for that and gave her daughter 9 vaccines on the same day. The next day her daughter stopped talking. The next day she lost another skill, and the next day another skill, etc. Rose said she was afraid to wake up in the morning and witness another loss. Her daughter descended into autism. Rose was smart and an attorney and she knew it was the vaccines - not some ridiculous coincidence. Rose and I became friends and never went back to another meeting. Her story is not atypical.
Us seasoned autism-vaccine mothers have disliked (to put it mildly) Paul Offit for more than 2 decades. Twenty-five years ago I was youngish, and believed, dreamed? - as many of us did - that all we needed to do was to get the information out there about vaccines and autism and we would stop this epidemic. I was naive. I let go of that dream some years ago but COVID with its related vaccine tribulations has stirred a tiny spark.
Thank you for writing about Dr. Offit. To quote a favorite movie line of mine: The truth is hard....but that's where the good ones live...
Touching story. I am sure there are many others who have stories like Rose's. And yes, for a while I thought the evidence would speak for itself. We have a much bigger problem. Those who should know the most are not being rational.
Thank you so much for your courage to fight such dispicable lying individuals. One must wonder what his motivation might be? Likely money and power. So sad. But like many, I say good riddance!
You are right many will believe what the MSM spews about Offit and everything else ...that is the root problem of where we are....no critical thinking...and there is no "voting" your way out....so as in that last line of the movie "The Candidate"...."Now what...."
On September 2, Offit penned a piece on his own substack newsletter. The article is titled "To Serve Man". I think he wrote it before he found out about his dismissal from the FDA VRBPAC. In it he recycles all of his false talking points about Secretary Kennedy.
Here is the comment I left there. Consider leaving your own comments there. To his credit, Offit allows all to leave comments, not just paying subscribers like most heavy influencers.
Link to article
https://pauloffit.substack.com/p/to-serve-man
Dr. Offit,
Cite the study that compares unvaccinated to vaccinated children with regard to chronic disease load over an extended observation period. That would make Kennedy and all his antivaxxer nut jobs stand down.
The problem is that there isn't any. Worse yet, the study could be done today and should have been done thirty years ago. What proof does the CDC have that it's immunization schedule is safe? Why does the onus of proof sit with those who believe they could be harmful when the CDC, by their own recommendations claim that their immunization schedule is safe?
You helped write the amicus briefing to the SCOTUS in support of the National Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. I read it. Vaccine manufacturers need indemnification because otherwise they would stop making vaccines. Okay. Fine. But the amicus also argued that that act formed the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund that was required because too many children were being injured by vaccines and were lost in the legal system.
That Fund has since paid over $5,000,000,000 to the vaccine injured. Devastating injuries are happening but we simply don't know how many.
The two measles deaths this year weren't from the measles. They were deaths from community acquired pneumonia that went unrecognized by the care team. The families are suing and they will win.
Tell us Paul, how many children do we need to vaccinate to prevent a pertussis death? Now tell us the serious adverse event frequency of that vaccine so we can understand something beyond "child died! It was antivaxxer propaganda!!"
You keep attacking Kennedy by making stuff up. He doesn't believe in germ theory? Really? He recommends the measles vaccine as the best way to prevent the measles. Why? How can the measles vaccine prevent the measles if there wasn't a germ involved? Care to explain that?
The evidence for HIV causing AIDS is very flimsy. This is not just his opinion. This is the opinion expressed by some the world's best medical researchers and virologists. Kennedy has asked us to examine the role of HHV6 in causing AIDS.
HHV6 is known to attack CD4+ and CD8+ lymphocytes unlike HIV. And HHV6 is a virus. In other words a GERM, Paul. He goes into this in great depth in his book "The Real Anthony Fauci". It's the book which you quote over and over where you claim you have proof that he believes in the miasma theory and not germ theory.
A quick look at the book proves you wrong. He explains what miasma theory is. He even goes so far as to describe miasma theory as the explanation that environmental factors play a role in making a person more susceptible to GERMS. And then he writes explicitly that he holds no opinion on the matter and defers to the medical community to sort things out. You're just lying and it is so easy demonstrable.
Look, nobody is going to deny that you have a ton of experience and understanding of the subject, but why make things up that aren't true? This stuff you are saying about Kennedy is so easily debunked it makes me think that you are suffering from a kind of delusion.
It's like you are so used to being unchallenged that you feel like you can say anything you want to and it will be true from the formidable authority you possess in this sphere.
Yesterday you found out that your services were no longer requested as an advisor to the FDA. Your response as quoted by the Guardian:
"I understand that it’s likely I didn’t get through HHS because Robert F Kennedy Jr may not like me as much as I’d hoped. I have been critical of the administration. But that’s OK, because it’s OK to have debate about things, it’s OK to question, and then if you think I’m wrong, tell me where I’m wrong."
So you hoped that Kennedy liked you MORE? Really? After these constant lies you spread about him, his work, his opinions which are backed by other doctors and scientists that are no less revered as you? It's OKAY to have a debate about things? Since when do you believe that Paul? You're on tape admitting that you cannot technically say that vaccines don't cause autism but you have to. Why? Because that would open up a debate.
Okay, why don't you invite Kennedy to have a debate, or a friendly conversation with you so you can hold his feet to the fire or prove he is bonkers like you say. You have had that opportunity but you never took it.
The public isn't stupid. Most aren't experts in virology and immunology or in any field at all. However they are smart enough to know that a guilty party will bend over backwards to see that evidence is not admitted while the innocent will advocate for full disclosure.
I am personally offended by what you are doing not just because I am a physician. It's because I trained at UPENN where you hold your professorship. I trained at CHoP where you developed your vaccine. Your lies and misrepresentation sullies my own training.
Madhava Setty, MD
Thank you for these and many other essays—I really appreciate them!
Offit said “It’s okay to have debate about things…it’s okay to question”?!
I’ve been reading Offits posts via your substack. I was attacked by crazy trolls in his comment section when he claimed to be Galileo regarding vaccines. He sounds completely different now….like the jig is up & there’s nobody behind him to shore up the lies.
I think it's different being delusional when you disagree with the world at large and being delusional when all the most respected people, the media, and the scientific literature supports your delusion. It's much harder to break through a person's delusions when they have this kind of support. Here are my thoughts on "What happens when the cult is the majority"?
https://mitteldorf.substack.com/p/when-the-cult-is-the-majority
It's a beautifully written essay. I am surprised I hadn't read it before.
While I agree that most of the medical professionals whom I know who adhere to the establishment position are suffering from a delusion of the majority as you describe, Offit is different. He knows his position cannot be supported by data or properly done studies.
I have maintained hope that he could be turned, knowing that he could have a legacy that exceeds what he is seeking to protect. An inventor of a vaccine that saved millions of hospital visits and probably quite a view innocent lives, who recognized the potential danger of these products and left the planet with safer vaccines for all!
Alas, it seems that he is too far committed to the establishment. I think he made a conscious decision to go all in. So his delusion is a bit different. I think he believes his voice is large enough that he can hold reality at bay. I say this because of his absurd attacks on Secretary Kennedy which are easily shown to be false. He's not at all afraid of being exposed as a liar.
Imagine claiming that Kennedy does not believe in germ theory by taking a single line of a book which devotes several chapters exposing the various potential pathogens more likely responsible for AIDS than HIV? I think he actually believes that because he says Bobby denies the existence of germs not only will people believe him, reality will change to adhere to his version of it.
I respect very much your writings.
But let me question this statement: "the cult is the majority".
I do not consider this to be true as, in my own experience, the great majority of the population, mister and madam everybody, do not support this "cult".
The advocates of the "cult" do everything possible to make us believe that they represent the majority. This is their most important maneuver to deceive and dominate us.
From your lips to God's ear. We don't have unbiased polls to know if you are right. I hope you are.
Good riddance!
He thinks it's ok to have a debate, yet, he's been invited to discuss his thoughts and opinions by many. We have yet to see it happen.
Good bye Dr. Unfit.
PS I like your audio recorded SS Dr. Setty. Thank you.
To consider what this guy is saying, the way he justifies his reasoning and goes on about those critical of it, the only comparison that comes up is with some of the worst people in the history of the world. The Stalins, the Maos, Goebbels, and all the rest who somehow in the dark compartments of their brains really believed that they were doing the right thing and expected that they would become heroes no one would ever forget.
Whoo Hoo! Good riddance.
Paul Offit is definitely delusional.
He's as bad as Peter Hotez. Fellow "vaccinologists", that alone says it all.
I was going to say you won't have Paul Offit to kick around anymore, but I don't think he'll have the decency to just fade away any time soon...
"I have been critical of the administration...if you think I’m wrong, tell me where I’m wrong."
Right there. That's where you're wrong. You are not getting ousted because you have been critical of the administration. This is not based on politics, it's based on science. (I know. You have been so far removed from science for so long, there is a high degree of probability that you don't recognize it anymore.)
Twenty-four or so years ago, my son with autism was about five years old and I was already getting involved in the autism-vaccine connection. There was a local chapter of the Autism Society of America that I had joined but out of the small group of mothers, I was the only one interested in the vaccine connection. The last meeting I attended, a new person, Rose, walked in, sat down, and told her story. She had a perfectly typical 2 and 1/2 year old daughter who she recently had taken to her pediatrician for a check-up. Because she had missed the last two regularly scheduled visits for vaccinations, they made up for that and gave her daughter 9 vaccines on the same day. The next day her daughter stopped talking. The next day she lost another skill, and the next day another skill, etc. Rose said she was afraid to wake up in the morning and witness another loss. Her daughter descended into autism. Rose was smart and an attorney and she knew it was the vaccines - not some ridiculous coincidence. Rose and I became friends and never went back to another meeting. Her story is not atypical.
Us seasoned autism-vaccine mothers have disliked (to put it mildly) Paul Offit for more than 2 decades. Twenty-five years ago I was youngish, and believed, dreamed? - as many of us did - that all we needed to do was to get the information out there about vaccines and autism and we would stop this epidemic. I was naive. I let go of that dream some years ago but COVID with its related vaccine tribulations has stirred a tiny spark.
Thank you for writing about Dr. Offit. To quote a favorite movie line of mine: The truth is hard....but that's where the good ones live...
Touching story. I am sure there are many others who have stories like Rose's. And yes, for a while I thought the evidence would speak for itself. We have a much bigger problem. Those who should know the most are not being rational.
Thank you so much for your courage to fight such dispicable lying individuals. One must wonder what his motivation might be? Likely money and power. So sad. But like many, I say good riddance!
You are right many will believe what the MSM spews about Offit and everything else ...that is the root problem of where we are....no critical thinking...and there is no "voting" your way out....so as in that last line of the movie "The Candidate"...."Now what...."
Another bum-of-the-month finally bites the dust. Now he can go work for toxic big pharma.
It must be hard to know, deep down, that one’s fortunes are derived from greed and hubris.